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I don't think it is worth the trouble rewriting Purity as such for 64-bit. It is too old for that. Maybe he should make a new, modern rompler that goes beyond Purity, while he is at it.

Purity uses so few computer resources that a 64-bit version won't really improve anything.

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crisis-at-music wrote:
Teksonik wrote:I reported a serious Bug in the 64 Bit version of Purity but Sky Cha responded:

"I will send our old programmer your issues. But he may not be able to solve. :( "

If anyone else is testing the 64 bit version PM me please.......
Huh? There will be a 64bit version of Purity?! :o
Well there is a 64 bit version but like I said I found a serious bug in just a few minutes of testing that if not fixed will render Purity 64 bit nearly useless. I haven't bothered to test any further since if they can't fix that bug finding any more would be pointless. If I know development will continue I'll keep testing....... :?
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Teksonik wrote:
HaganeSteel wrote:Sky Cha keeps saying to look out for their new products, so I think we can assume they'll be coming out with more things in the future.

Hopefully we've given this company enough attention so that they get more sales and build another kickass sound module in the future. :love:
Really ? He also said:

"Actually, our main developer pooped out the work after finished Purity windows 64-bit version only. :( "

So I get the feeling that any new products from Luxonix will be sample content. It's ironic since Purity begs for new sample content.....perhaps they'll find a new main developer but see my quote a few posts back..........
Yeah. Sky Cha told me that too, but I wasn't sure it was my place to say anything.

I'm hoping Purity gets enough support that Yeap comes back because this thing is solid now.

I'm a fan of Yeap's programming, I really am. The filters, the LFO, the engine itself - they're gorgeous, and I attribute a lot of Purity's sound to his work.

I wish I was around back in 2008 when he tried to contact me to get help with those bugs. I feel kind of bad now.

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fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't think it is worth the trouble rewriting Purity as such for 64-bit. It is too old for that. Maybe he should make a new, modern rompler that goes beyond Purity, while he is at it.

Purity uses so few computer resources that a 64-bit version won't really improve anything.
Eliminating the need for a Bit Bridge is always a good thing and since Purity is sample based it's one of the plugins that can theoretically at some point take advantage of the benefit of 64 bit which is addressing more memory.......
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HaganeSteel wrote:
I wish I was around back in 2008 when he tried to contact me to get help with those bugs. I feel kind of bad now.
I reported the issue of slots not clearing when switching Multis back when Purity was first released and nothing was done about it....so I wouldn't feel bad if I were you.........
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Teksonik wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't think it is worth the trouble rewriting Purity as such for 64-bit. It is too old for that. Maybe he should make a new, modern rompler that goes beyond Purity, while he is at it.

Purity uses so few computer resources that a 64-bit version won't really improve anything.
Eliminating the need for a Bit Bridge is always a good thing and since Purity is sample based it's one of the plugins that can theoretically at some point take advantage of the benefit of 64 bit which is addressing more memory.......
But one instance only uses 64MB if I remember correctly, and that only if every instance loaded all samples, which is not the case, they are loaded just once for all instances. Given that even 32-bit computers can address 3GB of memory, the memory argument is not very strong ;)

Bridge, well, that might be a problem for some, true. No idea how it works using J Bridge or internal DAW bridges...
But as long as I keep using my SE stuff, I am stuck with 32-bit anyway :)

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fluffy_little_something wrote: the memory argument is not very strong ;)
Now it's not........but like I said since Luxonix is still working on sample content so theoretically at some point Purity could be provided additional content that could take it into the several giga bytes range........theoretically. Sample based instruments are the only ones that really benefit from 64 bit versions so why not make it future proof ? Like I said the 64 bit version already exists........it's just not debugged yet.
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fluffy_little_something wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't think it is worth the trouble rewriting Purity as such for 64-bit. It is too old for that. Maybe he should make a new, modern rompler that goes beyond Purity, while he is at it.

Purity uses so few computer resources that a 64-bit version won't really improve anything.
Eliminating the need for a Bit Bridge is always a good thing and since Purity is sample based it's one of the plugins that can theoretically at some point take advantage of the benefit of 64 bit which is addressing more memory.......
But one instance only uses 64MB if I remember correctly, and that only if every instance loaded all samples, which is not the case, they are loaded just once for all instances. Given that even 32-bit computers can address 3GB of memory, the memory argument is not very strong ;)

Bridge, well, that might be a problem for some, true. No idea how it works using J Bridge or internal DAW bridges...
But as long as I keep using my SE stuff, I am stuck with 32-bit anyway :)
Well, if Purity gets enough support and they either get Yeap back or get a new programmer, we can get expansions like Toys in Wonderland for it, and that will justify the move to 64bit, I think.

I think if Purity gets enough support, it has a good future with room for a lot more sample content.

Edit: Just saw that Tek said the same thing. Sorry. :hihi: Beaten to the punch!

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Even if they expanded the sample volume tenfold, that would still be only 640MB for dozens of instances :)
But frankly, I think they already abandoned Purity, and I totally understand it. People move on, so much happens in 7 years, people get married, have a family, etc. So who cares about some old piece of software that occasionally someone still buys as they are happy with it the way it is...
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I wanted to add....to be considered a true bug an issue should be confirmed and reproducible by at least two testers on different machines and preferably more than two. So I can't rule out the bug that I found in the 64 bit version is not a system specific issue although I'm testing on a fairly new bog standard install of Win 7 so there really shouldn't be any reason for it to be the cause.....could be a permissions issue or something similar though can't rule that out. That's why I asked if anyone else is testing the 64 bit version and we can work on it together. I'm more that ready and willing to keep testing but if this bug isn't fixed then it would be pointless...let's give them time to see what happens. I'd love to see Purity's development continue for a long time into the future......... :)
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fluffy_little_something wrote: I think they already abandoned Purity, and I totally understand it. People move on, so much happens in 7 years, people get married, have a family, etc. So who cares about some old piece of software that occasionally someone still buys as they are happy with it the way it is...
So they just put it on sale for half price and abandoned it ? That's what you're saying ? Doesn't make sense......and makes Luxonix look bad. I don't think they want to abandon it....seems more like an issue of manpower at the moment. Let's not put a nail in Purity's coffin just yet.... :wink:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Even if they expanded the sample volume tenfold, that would still be only 640MB for dozens of instances :)
I use one drum kit that's 618 megs.....and I use two in every guitar based project. That's just drums. Large sample sets are pretty common now......giving Purity the ability to load them makes sense for the future.......
fluffy_little_something wrote:Asians tend to be very friendly, saying no is considered rude.
Wow that's a sweeping generalization isn't it ? My boss is Korean...he say's no all the time....especially when asking for a raise.... :lol:
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Teksonik wrote:I wanted to add....to be considered a true bug an issue should be confirmed and reproducible by at least two testers on different machines and preferably more than two. So I can't rule out the bug that I found in the 64 bit version is not a system specific issue although I'm testing on a fairly new bog standard install of Win 7 so there really shouldn't be any reason for it to be the cause.....could be a permissions issue or something similar though can't rule that out. That's why I asked if anyone else is testing the 64 bit version and we can work on it together. I'm more that ready and willing to keep testing but if this bug isn't fixed then it would be pointless...let's give them time to see what happens. I'd love to see Purity's development continue for a long time into the future......... :)
I sadly don't have a 64bit DAW or I would totally help you, man. But I do have a 64bit OS (I'm running Windows Vista 64), and if I ever get one in the future, I will be right there to help.

I would love to see Purity continue as well.

It's too good and too solid to be abandoned!

The thing is, Purity's engine is really good. The filter, the LFO, the effects, the way you can tune the actual samples rather than just transpose them, the sequencer, the arpeggiator, the combis, the ease of use and GUI - all those things are too good.

I hate to say this, because I don't want to put any pressure on Sky Cha or anything, but I have seen more than one person ask about adding content to this thing.

In a few years, if they added some kind of SFZ import feature, and their own expansions, we would literally have the software equivalent of the Roland XV5080.

Purity is already great. But that would be too good. Our mortal minds could not comprehend the awesome. :P :hihi:

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I don't think it would make them look bad. If they are phasing it out after 7 or more years, why not reduce its price and maybe make some more people buy it?
I guess there are several developers who do that.

Yes, but why do you need Purity for loading such modern sample libraries? There are enough other plugins, not to mention better romplers like Nexus.
While I am happy with what I got for those 48 euros, I definitely would get Nexus if it were not so expensive and huge :x

Your boss has probably adapted to US rudeness :D

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fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't think it would make them look bad. If they are phasing it out after 7 or more years, why not reduce its price and maybe make some more people buy it?
I guess there are several developers who do that.

Yes, but why do you need Purity for loading such modern sample libraries? There are enough other plugins, not to mention better romplers like Nexus.
While I am happy with what I got for those 48 euros, I definitely would get Nexus if it were not so expensive and huge :x

Your boss has probably adapted to US rudeness :D
Haha.

Well, for me, it's all about Purity's engine. You said it yourself: That filter is real good.

A lot of why I like Purity, I realized, has to do with the amount of control it gives me over things like that, and the LFO especially.

But really? I just want Luxonix to make more samples, and I want to be able to use them, because I think they're one of the few who have gotten it "right", with samples that are both high quality and have character.

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Yes, it is really nice for that price. I must say that my eyes have a problem with the user interface after a while, though.
The 24-db filter sounds as if it always had resonance on. Or is it just me?

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