Hive preview (April 1 update)

[serhiy06]

there is no filter drive

it is filter Input Gain. Try increase a resonance to maximum and then Input Gain.

[pdxindy]

The + on the LFO's is for unipolar

You're right, thank you.
What about OSC start phase?

In the Mod Matrix

[serhiy06]

And yeah, Hive sounds great!

In 2015 any soft synth have to sounds great. It is not 2001-2002.

In the Mod Matrix

Yeah, thanks.

[Urs]

Hehehe, we knew it would be controversial. I was torn as to whether or not we should do this. But when we had the first prototype about a year ago, it was immediately clear that we must.

Not every synth needs every feature. If leaving a feature out opens up a different angle or possibility then it is worth trying.

That said, we can add a lot more without changing the concept or adding a knob. Hive is pretty extensible and it is obviously work in progress.

- Urs

[ZeePok]

 
No manual available?

If not, when will a manual be available?
 

[woodsdenis]

This is the first synth in years that I have actually started at init and programmed sounds for, groundbreaking no, quality and ease use yes.
Cmon it was never going to be a wavetable synth. It fills a fairly big gap in the u-he family, I love and will use it a lot.

[Urs]

 
No manual available?

If not, when will a manual be available?
 

It's a preview. We'll have the user guide ready for the final version, hopefully in January

Testing how people can cope without a manual is also part of the exercise - we'll identify areas that need extra explanation, or a better ui.

[Xenos]

Holy shit! IMHO, if you're looking for a Sylenth replacement, this is definitely it. It almost seems like an alternate version of the same synth, but with several additions and improvements.

But, there is no filter drive and no phase knob for the oscillators, and would love to see those added. I see that this is advertised as supposedly also good for dubstep. Right now, I would have to disagree.

As we are limited to the standard waveforms, and without FM synthesis features or comb filters, phase knobs for each osc is a must. This way I can, in combination with foldback distortion, carve out metallic and digital bass textures. In this area, Sylenth still has the advantage.

That said, I'm getting some killer electro house stuff out of this thing that really nails the vibe of what's currently in style, and turning on the compressor colors the sound in that same special way.

Osc phase start is a Mod Matrix target... In the Mod Matrix use Constant as the source and you can dial in the phase start.

Filter Input Gain is the equivalent of Drive. It is particularly good in the Dirty engine.

Duhhh...I missed those. Thanks for pointing that out . Gonna make heavy use out of those features tonight.

[3phase]

i tried to emulate some 303 ish filter whistle.. and that brought me to a limitation of the mod matrix.. you cant realy do something for the onset point of a modulation. for example when i want the fx of the overtones form osc 2 only be mxed in at the top travel of the mod wheel..

see attached patch.. as soon you bring the mod wheel up you hear the high freq dirt whistle from osc 2..

is there a trick to get this faded in only from mod wheel 2/3 up?

If not i suggest to have a "VIA" conditioner that sets a onset treshold of the modulation .

This "VIA" tag could also have other modifiers like a inverter. that different to a negative mod amount logically inverts the source.. so a mod wheel would be interpreted as full up when being in zero position.

This would allow to create certain fx without changing the cutoff freq on the filter

[Caine123]

 
No manual available?

If not, when will a manual be available?
 

It's a preview. We'll have the user guide ready for the final version, hopefully in January

Testing how people can cope without a manual is also part of the exercise - we'll identify areas that need extra explanation, or a better ui.

i wont buy till a manual is released this is unacceptable!

[3phase]

i wouldnt buy synths that need a manual

[serhiy06]

C2 vs G2

[Urs]

i tried to emulate some 303 ish filter whistle.. and that brought me to a limitation of the mod matrix.. you cant realy do something for the onset point of a modulation. for example when i want the fx of the overtones form osc 2 only be mxed in at the top travel of the mod wheel..

see attached patch.. as soon you bring the mod wheel up you hear the high freq dirt whistle from osc 2..

is there a trick to get this faded in only from mod wheel 2/3 up?

If not i suggest to have a "VIA" conditioner that sets a onset treshold of the modulation .

This "VIA" tag could also have other modifiers like a inverter. that different to a negative mod amount logically inverts the source.. so a mod wheel would be interpreted as full up when being in zero position.

This would allow to create certain fx without changing the cutoff freq on the filter

We're open to suggestions

Btw. There's a step mode for the sequencer, but it wasn't perfect yet. Also a poly/chord mode. We'll add it once it's good enuff

[3phase]

but one other suggestion.. such on screen pitch and mod wheel on the plug in is good for overview and optical feedback ..but why only one mod wheel? there are many hardware synths out there with more than one mod wheel and its allways a pleasure to play them. A second mod wheel would give a nice visual representation of the expression controller and makes testing of complex expression routings without hardware pedal much easier..

[Urs]

C2 vs G2

Mipmapped oscillators! As advertised