KVR Audio

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:30 am

aMUSEd wrote:
jackmazzotti wrote:Painter 2015 has the new particle brushes. EDU version is only 100 bucks on Amazon. Filter Forge also works inside it as a plugin.
I couldn't get it to work for me as a plugin in Painter 2015 on Mac.

same here but it was working with painter x

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:31 am

Painter's paper textures are also a great way to make pattern based images for KS

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:42 am

Oh, the EDU version. I've got bruises from hard knocks in the school of life...wonder if I qualify?

I got Painter X at a huge discount because I worked for a university at the time. Can't remember why it doesn't work now. I think it refused to install after a computer hardware upgrade. Oh well, not gonna spend $400 for the regular version. I have plenty to work with now.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:45 am

rustman wrote:Oh, the EDU version. I've got bruises from hard knocks in the school of life...wonder if I qualify?

I got Painter X at a huge discount because I worked for a university at the time. Can't remember why it doesn't work now. I think it refused to install after a computer hardware upgrade. Oh well, not gonna spend $400 for the regular version. I have plenty to work with now.

anyone can get it
you just can't sell it afterwards

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:09 am

secretkillerofnames wrote:
werp wrote: Brisneyland also. Explaining geography to a bunch of foreigners was just too hard. Bottom of Mt Glorious/Nebo.
I get the feeling we will cop it early in the morning.

Bloody hell...there's a Brisbane collective here on KVR?
(Alderley resident enjoying the rain)

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:15 am

The free version of Flame Painter is yielding some interesting results. The images are a little lower resolution, so you'll need to scale them up in Photoshop or whatever.
https://www.escapemotions.com/experimen ... /index.php

I opted not to upgrade my license of Corel Painter to the latest version because the new features just didn't seem relevant to my needs. But suddenly I'm getting curious about the particle brushes... hmm.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:17 am

jackmazzotti wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
jackmazzotti wrote:Painter 2015 has the new particle brushes. EDU version is only 100 bucks on Amazon. Filter Forge also works inside it as a plugin.
I couldn't get it to work for me as a plugin in Painter 2015 on Mac.
same here but it was working with painter x

I got it to work
I copied all three types of ff plugins into painter's plugin folder and now it works

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:54 am

This one is fun: Processing a simple sequence played with a Chromaphone patch (which sounds shitty on it's own but works great as an exciter for the resonators, as you can dial in the amount and the stiffness of the noise impulse), switching between presets of the same family.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:48 am

And some bewildering atonality in this atonal duet, using only the internal noise generator to excite the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrresonatorrrrrrrrssss, stepping through some presets from the same family:

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:53 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:And some bewildering atonality in this atonal duet, using only the internal noise generator to excite the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrresonatorrrrrrrrssss, stepping through some presets from the same family:

TwoToneshuzz · Post by **TwoToneshuzz** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:20 am

Love these last two examples Simon..

I'm looking and learning much here!

I'm working on banging togther a Tabula Rasa concerto for snaredrum and 7 Serum patches..

Loosely Tonal with tinges of polytonality.

It's the Snare drum part that I'm working on and researching this weekend, I want to make it as realistic as possible without actually going out and buying or renting a real snare drum! This last for the Sake of the NEiBoors. The Halion Symphonic library has a almost decent Snare in it, though I have a want for the VSL percussion extended library...

So I figure that one solo part will take the better part of two days to get at least bearable results..

Or maybe I could do all this in Kaleidoscope..

I learned to "like" atonality back in the day....

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:20 am

I think I'm on to something here. Reaktor-->Metaphysical Function into KS. Now this is evolving at it's best.

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:56 am

jackmazzotti wrote:

hahaha. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject...

I think these guys were ahead of their time, and looking for ways to expand the vocabulary at a time before electronic music was available... now we have many more options for novel "sonic architecture" and personally I think there are better ways to be "intellectual" while still maintaining some sense of functional aesthetics... nothing wrong with the fundamental laws of tonality IMHO... a I IV V chord progression in major key works for a reason... as trite as that may sound...

atonality is like a strong spice. It's great to use in small does to add some kind of novel surprise. But I would not generally want to eat a full meal consisting only of Tumeric... or listen to a full symphony of "melodies" made from Costas arrays or Hadamard matrices...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costas_array
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadamard_matrix

http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_rickard_ ... iest_music

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:03 am

Galbanum wrote:
jackmazzotti wrote:

hahaha. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject...

I think these guys were ahead of their time, and looking for ways to expand the vocabulary at a time before electronic music was available... now we have many more options for novel "sonic architecture" and personally I think there are better ways to be "intellectual" while still maintaining some sense of functional aesthetics... nothing wrong with the fundamental laws of tonality IMHO... a I IV V chord progression in major key works for a reason... as trite as that may sound...

atonality is like a strong spice. It's great to use in small does to add some kind of novel surprise. But I would not generally want to eat of full meal consisting only of Tumeric... or listen to a full symphony of "melodies" made from Costas arrays or Hadamard matrices...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costas_array
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadamard_matrix

http://www.ted.com/talks/scott_rickard_ ... iest_music

I agree
I find that video to be hilarious. I do love Schoenberg's early work that still made use of tonality. I agree with Messiaen when stated the serialism is poison. Xenakis of course is different matter all together. I have no idea how he makes the music that he does but I learned in my twenties that I should not listen to him while driving as I might end in ditch somewhere.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:08 am

@ Andrew, interesting video on the the ugliest music ever mathematically composed

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