If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

[Michael L]

I would recommend Perfecting Sound Forever by Greg Milner, which is a history of recorded music.

Thanks!
I looked through an ebook. So cool, and well written!
It only goes up to 2009 and the birth of dub, but it shows the innovative thinking behind the practices I take for granted. A review said, "He shows how great recordings come about not through advances in technology but through a love of the art..."

[Bunny_boy]

It only goes up to 2009 and the birth of dub

It's not that recent, but it does definitely mention ITB production (he says... it been a while!).
Dub's from the 70s - do you mean dubstep?

[Michael L]

It only goes up to 2009 and the birth of dub

It's not that recent, but it does definitely mention ITB production (he says... it been a while!).
Dub's from the 70s - do you mean dubstep?

No, the final chapter is on the birth of dub recording methods, particularly King Tubby who would strip out vocals and cut up instrumentals, add studio effects that he invented, and see songs as 'samples' he could remix to entirely reinvent a song. Those methods influenced genres such as dancehall, dubstep, hip-hop, house, ambient, the ways people thought about effects plugins and early digital tech (including ProTools), and the experimental approach to mixing.

[Bunny_boy]

It only goes up to 2009 and the birth of dub

It's not that recent, but it does definitely mention ITB production (he says... it been a while!).
Dub's from the 70s - do you mean dubstep?

No, the final chapter is on the birth of dub recording methods, particularly King Tubby who would strip out vocals and cut up instrumentals, add studio effects that he invented, and see songs as 'samples' he could remix to entirely reinvent a song. Those methods influenced genres such as dancehall, dubstep, hip-hop, house, ambient, the ways people thought about effects plugins and early digital tech (including ProTools), and the experimental approach to mixing.

Yeah, I know about dub (hence my stament about it being from the 70s) - it just your sentence states that dub is from 2009, which confused me. "For want of a comma, the case was lost"

[Michael L]

It only goes up to 2009 and the birth of dub

It's not that recent, but it does definitely mention ITB production (he says... it been a while!).
Dub's from the 70s - do you mean dubstep?

No, the final chapter is on the birth of dub recording methods, particularly King Tubby who would strip out vocals and cut up instrumentals, add studio effects that he invented, and see songs as 'samples' he could remix to entirely reinvent a song. Those methods influenced genres such as dancehall, dubstep, hip-hop, house, ambient, the ways people thought about effects plugins and early digital tech (including ProTools), and the experimental approach to mixing.

Yeah, I know about dub (hence my stament about it being from the 70s) - it just your sentence states that dub is from 2009, which confused me. "For want of a comma, the case was lost"

I didn’t realise how deep and extensive the dub influence was, and how innovative Tubby was. That book drills down into the details of how it changed the way we think. Reading it is like doing my own brain surgery.

[whyterabbyt]

I would recommend Perfecting Sound Forever by Greg Milner, which is a history of recorded music.

Ordered! Cheers.

[audiojunkie]

Ok. After starting a much better day than I was having all day yesterday, with a clearer head I went back through everything that was posted. I owe whyterabbyt and machinesworking apologies, and probably everyone else in this forum too.

I guess the big takeaway is that when someone is already having a horrible day and not thinking or listening to what people are saying, instead of spewing unreasoned, illogical venom at everyone in their path, it’s better to just shut up, until reason can return.

Sorry guys.

[whyterabbyt]

Sorry guys.

Cheers, that's genuinely appreciated.

[audiojunkie]

Sorry guys.

Cheers, that's genuinely appreciated.

You deserve the apology. Thanks for accepting it!

[Jim Roseberry]

A couple of points

If you're talking about large bands (recording artists) not going into a commercial studio:

Lots of records have been made in environments that are not technically professional studios.
Led Zeppelin used to rent a mansion to record.
But... they outfitted said mansion with commercial studio gear... and used world-class engineer/s.
At that point, it is a professional studio... where the band is in control... and not paying by the hour.
That's not the same as recorded in someone's bedroom studio using the likes of a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2.
Folks bring up the fact that many Beatles recordings were done on 4-Track.
Yes, but... it was not a cassette port-studio. It was (at the time), high-end studio gear.

I've recorded the Memphis Horns at a "home studio" in Franklin, TN called Sunset Blvd.
It's a "home studio" by name only. The facility has 15' ceilings... and is fully outfitted with world-class gear including C24 mic and GML preamps. Nashville based session players record there every day.

I've got a professional guitar playing client who's played on many major-label records.
He was a founding member of a band that was popular in the late 80s (featuring a great piano player).
He's recorded in many of the major studios throughout the world.
He records his own records in his home studio.
What DAW software is he using? ProTools.
Not because he couldn't use any other DAW application... but because ProTools is used throughout the industry.
Once recorded, the project goes to a legit mix engineer. From there, the project goes to a mastering engineer.
Using ProTools, it's simply a matter of handing the project to the next professional.

If one is working in a more isolated environment, compatibility with others is much less a concern.

In the world of TV/Film composing, Cubase in the most common DAW application.
We have a single professional composer using DP. All the others are using Cubase.
Does that mean you can't compose in other DAW applications? Of course not.
Cubase has simply become the most common tool in that realm.
Those that need maximum compatibility in that environment, their best choice is Cubase.

[audiojunkie]

A couple of points….

…Once recorded, the project goes to a legit mix engineer. From there, the project goes to a mastering engineer.
Using ProTools, it's simply a matter of handing the project to the next professional.

After the less than productive exchange from yesterday (again, apologies to all), I am truly reluctant to wade back into the fray. I’ll simply reply to this quoted part above as a different tack at trying to explaining myself:

Projects composed primarily of prepared multitracks, rather than actual Pro Tools project files are received more often these days by professional studios for the mixing and mastering parts of the process. The DAW used in creating these multitracks has become largely irrelevant.

[machinesworking]

Ok. After starting a much better day than I was having all day yesterday, with a clearer head I went back through everything that was posted. I owe whyterabbit and machinesworking apologies, and probably everyone else in this forum too.

I guess the big takeaway is that when someone is already having a horrible day and not thinking or listening to what people are saying, instead of spewing unreasoned, illogical venom at everyone in their path, it’s better to just shut up, until reason can return.

Sorry guys.

You're more emotionaly intellignet than you think you are for being the better man here.

But! you're not doing the internet the right way, you're supposed to declare victory, then spend the next couple years making snide comments towards us out of context to the subject on hand, also randomly bring up Pro Tools as useless in threads about Falcon or the weather.

[audiojunkie]

Ok. After starting a much better day than I was having all day yesterday, with a clearer head I went back through everything that was posted. I owe whyterabbit and machinesworking apologies, and probably everyone else in this forum too.

I guess the big takeaway is that when someone is already having a horrible day and not thinking or listening to what people are saying, instead of spewing unreasoned, illogical venom at everyone in their path, it’s better to just shut up, until reason can return.

Sorry guys.

You're more emotionaly intellignet than you think you are for being the better man here.

But! you're not doing the internet the right way, you're supposed to declare victory, then spend the next couple years making snide comments towards us out of context to the subject on hand, also randomly bring up Pro Tools as useless in threads about Falcon or the weather.

Nah! I needed to apologize. My inability to properly express myself under poor conditions wasn’t your faults. I like you guys! It would be really stupid of me to throw two forum friendships (lasting years and years) away over me having a bad day.

Thanks for being a standup guy and overlooking yesterday.

[EnGee]

I think Studio Pro 8 is more than enough for me! Sometimes I use Live for quick testing or for some change (also Reason), but SP8 is the best for me and covers all my needs. It also has all the tools I need for growing and expanding, like using/learning my electric guitar, but also learning a classic guitar (with notes and tabs).

I have good enough monitors and headphones. I don't sing. I don't play real drums, so ITB suits me well. For a hobby, it is more than enough. I don't think Pro Tools would improve anything for me! It maybe would if I want a professional recording studio, but I'm not interested in that.

I've even tried a minimal setup with Linux Mint, Bitwig and few Linux native plugins, but I f**ked the EFI partition when trying /installing Fedora 43. I did a clean install for Windows 11 (after creating a new EFI system). So, I lost everything installed (also the access to Linux Mint!), so I just stayed with Windows 11 with my current setup now. It is great! I don't have complains

[Grizzellda]

***MuLab***

and REAPER??

And sure, if you've got VST plugs, cool. If not, go for a more mainstream DAW, which will likely have several plugs!