the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is goodHink wrote:androidlove wrote:wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?
I have no answer...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none?
I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?
edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer
Weird Idea!
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Apr, 2005 from southsubchicago
i guess i was thinking one could record stuff then transfer it later and do processing...are you thinking of humming into a batt operated unit and it would play a synth or something?androidlove wrote:yea, i just want it in a little pocket unitross g wrote:aren't there things like that in software now? especially monophonic, audio>midi and such?androidlove wrote:i was thinking tonight about a sytem like that. weird eh? i was thinking i needed a voice based system to take to work
KVR: come for the music, stay for the polemics and grammar lessons...
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice 
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Apr, 2005 from southsubchicago
i know zoom makes a nice looking batt operated 4track...androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice
edit, they have a little batt op dealie with a built in mic, i think it's 2track, but now Roland has a new really good looking sampler with a condenser mic that runs on batts, seems like it's got everything you need for a portable unit....or even a studio unit...i think it's called SP-404
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
the way I see it that's precisely where technology is headed...I have no opinion either way..I can see the benefits for sure, and I would take full advantage of them....but you can't ignore the battle that rages on (one I'm sick of) of so called real musicians and those who just use a computer...(which for the record again, I believe the computer is an instrument) if such a device existed (and someday will) it will surely intensify that battle...I ask will the outcome be better or worse? A valid question, and one with enough varibles I wouldn't even attempt to take a guess...androidlove wrote:the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is goodHink wrote:androidlove wrote:wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?
I have no answer...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none?
I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?
edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
if a program let you chose instrument, style, etc., and then you just hit "generate" (it's not like these programs don't exist) that would be empowering. unless the generator was around 4 yrs old, i wouldn't bother with the composition. however, these things make many feel as if they're writing music. i want everyone to be able to have that feeling no matter the stageHink wrote:see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I'm not disagreeing...androidlove wrote:if a program let you chose instrument, style, etc., and then you just hit "generate" (it's not like these programs don't exist) that would be empowering. unless the generator was around 4 yrs old, i wouldn't bother with the composition. however, these things make many feel as if they're writing music. i want everyone to be able to have that feeling no matter the stageHink wrote:see I was thinking something for music like my drawing tablet example....a miracle machine...not just a recorder...androidlove wrote:really, i hadn't thought of going voice>instrument. i was just thinking about a pocket multitrack with punch. i was thinkin i'd make the sounds with my voice
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 8 Jul, 2005 from NY, US
It's still still survival of the fittest in this industry. If everyone was making music like this, the best would still get the most respect and the rest will be considered amatuer or trash. Every generation it seems goes through this "dilema". Art is art. As long as there's enough room for artistic expression in a medium, true genius could emerge.Hink wrote:the way I see it that's precisely where technology is headed...I have no opinion either way..I can see the benefits for sure, and I would take full advantage of them....but you can't ignore the battle that rages on (one I'm sick of) of so called real musicians and those who just use a computer...(which for the record again, I believe the computer is an instrument) if such a device existed (and someday will) it will surely intensify that battle...I ask will the outcome be better or worse? A valid question, and one with enough varibles I wouldn't even attempt to take a guess...androidlove wrote:the answer is----whatever puts power in the hands of the people is goodHink wrote:androidlove wrote:wtf? making art and music is for everyone. power to the people!Hink wrote:what would the world be like if everyone who could hum a tune become a composer just by pushing a couple buttons?
I have no answer...but it poses a quite a lot of questions. What if they developed a tablet you write on. You select a mode, likely named for famous artists and styles. Then all you did was draw something close and it would turn out a flawless drawing based on you mode...would the be any artists at all if everyone was an artist? Would there be any musicians if everyone was a musician? Would it create elitism to the highest form? Or would there be none?
I'm sorry, did I draw a concluson?
edit....you might start by reading where I said I have no answer
I am high and feeling poetic, give me a break?
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
MadPsyance wrote:industry
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 8 Jul, 2005 from NY, US
industry/artform whatever. you know what i mean, huh?
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
MadPsyance wrote:artform
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 8 Jul, 2005 from NY, US
It's like Power to the People!, but at the same time technological gluttony. But the question is, could you still make something inspiring out of it?
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Apr, 2005 from southsubchicago
i have an ok walkman sized cassette my wife gave me, i think it records mono only...i've used it to record shortwave and trucker cb (i'm about half a mile from where I-80/294 meet) with the auto-record function while sleeping...i would be happy to just carry that thing around and hum and sing ideas into it, but i honestly haven't thought of it until now...
EDIT: i've always wanted one of those little Yamaha midi boxes about the size of a video tape...they would be great on a bus, waiting at doctor's office, etc...i've never tried one but they look cool...
EDIT: i've always wanted one of those little Yamaha midi boxes about the size of a video tape...they would be great on a bus, waiting at doctor's office, etc...i've never tried one but they look cool...
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KVR: come for the music, stay for the polemics and grammar lessons...
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
people get amazed at the things they make themselves. it could be crap to the rest of humanity
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest
