T2 audio quality question.vs other hosts

[GaryG]

There was a big discussion ages back re: Tracktion vs. Samplitude.

It was cited Samplitude sounded better due to it's 'phase linear' approach. It got kind of heated (Jules and ... that guy Robert from ... Florida?)

Personally I think it sounds great and have never questioned it's suitability as a 'pro' host.

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[classic dave]

Hi, there,

Please try to sell me on T2's audio engine quality as compared to Sonar/Cubase, etc. I've gone off the "deep end" and bought too many friggin' hosts which all are too friggin' complex for what I need and too difficult a learning curve.

After I got T2 I was "swooned away" from typical comments about how this, that, and the other hosts are "more professional" because of this, that, and the other.

I don't have the strength mentally to do a "blind a/b" test between T2, Sonar 5 Pro, Cubase SX and would like to simply go back to T2 if I can get enough info - both objecting and subjecting - on the quality of output vs the others...and some help mastering racks for multi-out vsti's like BFD, etc. I've gotten enough plug-ins to cover what T2 doesn't (UAD-1, etc) so that's not limiting.

I'm just SO past the point of reading "yet another manual" before starting to make any music.

"Help me, T2 Forum, you're my only hope..." (A re-written scene from the original Episode IV, the first one in the first trilogy which is really the second trilogy and yes, I do have Spectrasonic's Trilogy, also!)

THe goal is to be able to do just as quality work as S5P or SX3 before going to PT HD for another cut if needed for total high-end production.

Thanks, all, I really appreciate the ability to ask this here,

A/L

Ok, to set your mind at ease I did a sound quality comparison between Tracktion 2 and Logic's Soundtrack Pro which uses the same 64 bit audio engine as Logic 7. I downloaded two mono 24/88.2 audio files from an Alesis HD24 harddrive recorder into both Tracktion and Soundtrack Pro. I rendered them to a stereo file in both apps and burnt them to Red Book standard cd. I applied no effects or plug-ins of any kind. This is as pure as it gets. I used a recording of a string ensemble recorded with a Royer SF 24 stereo mic. Again I wanted a pure acoustic recording as this should show any differences in sound quality more readily than electric or or midi based recordings.
The result?. I could hear no discernible difference. Not the most scientific test,very subjective but it has satisfied me at least that Tracktion 2 is up there with the big boys.

Cheers

[Lunch Money]

Cheers, Dave. I'm GLAD you went with the "how does it sound" test rather than a scientific one! Enjoy Tracktion.

Greg

[stash98]

The audio engineer's consensus opinion is that ProTools HD sounds the best. This is because a ProTools HD system comes with it's own converters that are very high quality. Even the Digi 002 converters have been used on many major label mixes.

Point is, a great sound is more about converters and the talent behind the boards then the software itself.

That being said, many pro's have raved about the sound of Samplitude. I personally have been using Cubase the most because I have a very fast workflow on it, and I am more comfortable in that mixing environment. I like tracktion a lot but I am not using it much anymore.

The MIDI in Cubase is excellent, and I use a lot of MIDI.

My mixes sound better in Cubase, but I don't believe it is the summing. I think it is because I personally mix better in that environment.

It sounds like the original poster is overwhelmed with software and trying to pick a sequencer based on sound. That is a mistake. Pick your sequencer based on your workflow. If you track a lot of audio and want something real easy to pick up on that's user friendly, T2 is the best candidate. If you are more experienced, and are more MIDI oriented, Cubase could be your speed. It's up to you. If you are worrying about 0's and 1's and how something sounds, then you may need to just spend more time mixing and learning software. Once you find ytour ideal workflow situation, then your mixes will sound great on whatever software you choose.

[chico.co.uk]

The audio engineer's consensus opinion is that ProTools HD sounds the best.

Yes, this is very true, every time the audio engineers get together and vote on this, they always arrive at that conclusion.

Of course, a few radicals vote for other things, but they're just trying to be different. Dafties. They'll not get invited back to the audio engineers barbeque next year if they keep acting like dafties.

[stash98]

yuck yuck yuck.