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Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:01 pm

MPL is great and sounds a heck of a lot better than anything else I have in that category. The demos... depends too on what kind of system you were listening on. But best is to download the actual demo and let your OWN ears do the judging.

kaufi · Post by **kaufi** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:30 am

yes MPL-1 is great!!! in my opinion, NO other limiter/Maximizer can close to.

Kiwburger · Post by **Kiwburger** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:13 am

MPL-1 is f'ing fantastic on the right sources. For punchy drums you might want something else (like Elephant), so don't judge it on drums alone.

Who cares about audio demo's when you can download the plugin demo and hear for yourself. If you have any experience with software limiters, this should get you very excited.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:13 pm

kaufi wrote:yes MPL-1 is great!!! in my opinion, NO other limiter/Maximizer can close to.

I'm just too confused by the compressor versus limiter thing. Everything I've read says limiting is just compression above a ratio of 10:1 or higher. Of course, everybody could be quoting the same incorrect source, but I also don't see any hardware limiters, only compressors or compressor/limiters. Anyone care to 'splain this to me? Is it the maximizer aspect that sets a limiter apart from a compressor. I ain't gettin' it.

Kiwburger · Post by **Kiwburger** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:25 pm

Technically a limiter is a compressor with a ratio greater than 10:1, with a very fast attack and fairly high Threshold. For example, an optical compressor would not make a good limiter because they are too slow to catch fast transients. The controls on a limiter are usually set so you can specify a Ceiling - the maximum output which everything gets 'limited' to. From that point of view they are easier to use than a compressor. The idea is to catch the fast peaks and limit them. A compressor is generally more about shaping the envelope of the sound, or volume leveling. That requires slower attacks, lower thresholds, which actually makes the fast transients stand out further (because they are too fast to get compressed).
Often the combination of the two is required.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:58 pm

Kiwburger wrote:Technically a limiter is a compressor with a ratio greater than 10:1, with a very fast attack and fairly high Threshold...

Wow, thanks...great explanation. I don't recall seeing anything near as clear as this anywhere else, and I've been looking into this with some effort. A separate limiter makes sense given your description.

So, using limiters seems likely to be dependent on the kind of music being mastered and its dynamic range. Interesting.

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