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mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:49 pm

what about a seven minute punk song instead?

melloprog

Echo Voodoo · Post by **Echo Voodoo** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:54 pm

I've never intentionally listened to prog rock before, so I have absolutely no clue what to do with this one at this point. Guess I gotta go find some and start listening.

oddbods finger · Post by **oddbods finger** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:07 pm

I've never understood what prog-rock is, or is meant to sound like
I know the bands that are considered prog, but they all sound different to me.
Genesis, Yes, Floyd...Zep? are they a prog band?
It's not like punk - you know when your listening to a punk song.

It does seem prog is more defined by 'length' than anything else.

duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:09 pm

Mellotrons as well...

I might go for a Gentle Giant style instrumental [in amongst writing 3 different VST.. thank goodness I don't have a job at the mo! Now, how am I going to feed the kids?]

btw Parliament are funk, but sufficiently way out to have elements of prog.

We could get into a real argument about what consitutes prog here. In the US, in many minds it pretty much appears to boil down to being Styx and Kansas, and maybe a bit of The Flock, with all the European stuff being 'Ark Rock'

I take quite a wide view of prog, including the obvious (Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, ELP, PFM, etc), but also include further afield artists such as Gordon Giltrap, Penguin Cafe Orchestra, Joe Walsh, Family... Essentially prog isn't about 10 minute songs and noodly moog solos, tho' those are certainly there. It's about experimentation, about using music to suit what you want to say, about music for music's sake, about crossing boundaries and making new and often surprising juxtopositions. For me, prog is the most exciting form of music, what modernism was at the start of C20th...

I would strongly recommend folk find any Gentle Giant from 1975 or before [albums: Gentle Giant, Aquiring the Taste, Octopus, In a Glass House, The Power and the Glory, FreeHand, Interview] and listening through. On youtube there is some excellent footage of them in concert which I would suggest is a great place to get a taster

Family are an excellent place to find non-std prog [again youtube is your friend; search for Family +Chapman]. Very few of their songs went over the 5 minute mark in the studio.. Listen to the albums 'Family Entertainment', 'Fearless' and 'Bandstand' for some of their strongest moments.

I could go on all evening

DSP

selfconstruct · Post by **selfconstruct** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:21 pm

duncanparsons wrote: btw Parliament are funk, but sufficiently way out to have elements of prog.

I am really hoping Parliament is 70s and prog enough for me to take that kind of direction. I used to have a flatmate who liked prog rock and it filled my home with dank, lingering, moribund atmosphere that filled my heart with terror like vultures' talons scraping across the tile floor while I lay prone on the sofa, dying slowly from too much cask wine. Other than that it was alright.

adj · Post by **adj** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:23 pm

Nicely put DP

musikjock · Post by **musikjock** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:25 pm

gentle giant...greatest band of all time. I am really looking forward to your product duncanparsons!

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:01 pm

musikjock wrote:gentle giant...greatest band of all time. I am really looking forward to your product duncanparsons!

+1

core · Post by **core** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:35 pm

Oh man, I suck at this!

I can only butcher the genre, right? I think it's pointless for me to enter this month heh.

Echo Voodoo · Post by **Echo Voodoo** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:45 pm

Hmmmm... found more than one source that lists Kraftwerk as prog rock... maybe... maybe...

core wrote:I can only butcher the genre, right? I think it's pointless for me to enter this month heh.

Why would butchering the genre be a reason not to enter?

Sleek Month · Post by **Sleek Month** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:14 pm

So...

You can only enter once????

...because the obvious prog way around the time limit is to have a 12 minute "Suite" composed of 6 2 minute movements...

What about Rush? 2112 is certainly prog...

-S.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:20 pm

is it 70's or prog rock? I want to enter in the spirit of the comp.
The ohio players are 70's, but not prog.

perhaps some afternoon delight

Legion Hush · Post by **Legion Hush** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:31 pm

ouroboros wrote:is it 70's or prog rock? I want to enter in the spirit of the comp
The ohio players are 70's, but not prog.

perhaps some afternoon delight

*sigh*

Listed plain as day in the March Contest Submission thread wrote:The theme for this month will be Prog Rock of the 70's

What i'd like to know, is it our task this month to create a comp that sounds like it came from this period or??????

kara · Post by **kara** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:35 pm

core wrote:Oh man, I suck at this!

I can only butcher the genre, right? I think it's pointless for me to enter this month heh.

TBH with the right (wrong) vocals on top of this, you would have a good Punk song

Now change the type of drum sound to full reverb rock drums and trow a bit strings on top of that and you can call it prog rock :)

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:38 pm

Thanks for the theme. I think I'll be able to put something together that falls in this category.

As the guitarit of the greatest prog rock band ever is now writing anything from electro hip-hop to symphonic music for Bruckheimer movies, I think the field of scope has been widened considderable.

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