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pierreb · Post by **pierreb** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:25 pm

John-E34 wrote:
beej wrote:Yes, nothing sells a high-quality musical instrument like the audio on a YouTube video...

If this is the level of sophistication of the Zebra 2 community, relying on Emoticons to convey their lack of communication skills?. How old are you fan boys? 14?

Notice MA! no emoticons

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:27 pm

pierreb wrote:Fell free to ridicule my friend. You obviously are more knowledgeable than the millions of youtube users. Go back to making sound with your eyes shut.

Millions of YouTube users can't be wrong! Millions of Germans love Hasselhoff! Fell [sic] free to present your case in a less aggressive way next time, and without truly flawed logic. Hint: Your correlation between things being demonstrated on YouTube meaning they are good was the flaw. Said correlation was also what presented your case aggressively.

Note - being popular also does not necessarily equal something being good.

Further note - Meffy's quote should have clearly been marked "thread over" and "Meffy FTW"

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:30 pm

pierreb wrote:If Zebra 2 that good why no youtube demo?

YouTube = good

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:32 pm

@buscemi: Heh... naah, discussion is good. Some people get concepts a lot better from a video tutorial (I don't but that's just me). I wouldn't say YouTube is the best place to put such tuts, but at least one higher-quality alternative has been mentioned and I'm sure there are others. So the kernel of the idea is sound, just needs to be winnowed a bit to get rid of chaff (and over-extended, cereal-based metaphors).

beej · Post by **beej** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:34 pm

pierreb wrote:
chaoticz wrote:
beej wrote:Yes, nothing sells a high-quality musical instrument like the audio on a YouTube video...

Fell free to ridicule my friend. You obviously are more knowledgeable than the millions of youtube users. Go back to making sound with your eyes shut.

Oh for goodness sake, get a bit of humour guys! Notice the smileys?

I'm quite aware of YouTube, I made a humourous comment, all the more relevant as this very month YouTube reduced the quality of the audio encoding on their videos so badly that it became so intolerable for *regular users* (not audio professionals!) that they kicked up a stink about the whole thing.

If you want some Zebra videos on YouTube - stop complaining, and do it yourself! Don't wait for others to do it - be a trendsetter! Let other people follow you!

More productive than taking offence at random interforum postings where none was intended in the first place.

I feel some of you guys take things waaaayy too much at face value sometimes...

On a more serious note - I've been thinking about the whole video tutorial thing, and have been thinking of doing a *proper* Zebra video tutorial for quite some time.

However, Zebra is a *big* instrument to cover, and I want to do video tutorials in a way that hasn't been done yet (ie not like all the other video tutorials for software out there) - plus I have way too many other projects that have to come first. So, the likelihood is that I will do a video tutorial with this concept for a smaller instrument to get the infrastructure and any kinks worked out. If that goes down well, and if no-one else has tackled Zebra, then I'll come back to it - it really depends on how things work out.

That's the plan anyway. There is definite mileage in video tutorials - but a lot of them are done quite lazily.

But really, I'm not sure Zebra even needs that much marketing, it seems to do pretty well on word-of-forum/mouth alone - I don't even think Urs has particularly tried/needed to market his stuff much - it just finds it's audience and continues to sell, letting him spend more time on development rather than glossy adverts and videos.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:01 pm

oh I just noticed the other post that says "ignore" but has a much better title! Roll with that title, maybe, and it seems like a good idea.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:13 pm

pierreb wrote:If Zebra 2 that good why no youtube demo?

Because it isn't Nexus.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:29 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
musikmachine wrote:^Have you checked out Magix video edit pro?
It's more of a "How to capture the audio and video at the same time with CamStudio" plus i'll need the narration done at the same time.

Or at least i think so. Maybe i could put that in afterwards.It'll be easier technically but harder to remember what i did and when i did it.

The actual editing can be done with anything. I think even Windows Movie Maker will do. It's the actual capture that's bugging me.

I knew that!

The edit pro plus version has a screen capture feature, don't know how good it is though. I asked cos i was impressed with what the software can do, seems to be quite a professional program for what it costs.

beej · Post by **beej** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:45 pm

There's some great ones for the mac, that in one go can record the screen movie, a live video camera source, the narration microphone, the mouse, and the system audio output all at once, and then you can edit it all independently. Very cool indeed...

http://www.varasoftware.com/products/screenflow/

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:05 pm

beej wrote:There's some great ones for the mac, that in one go can record the screen movie, a live video camera source, the narration microphone, the mouse, and the system audio output all at once, and then you can edit it all independently. Very cool indeed...

http://www.varasoftware.com/products/screenflow/

ScreenFlow rocks! Definitely worth every penny if you are on the Mac and looking for that sort of thing.

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:13 pm

I like iShowU for a screen recorder on mac.

beej · Post by **beej** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:14 pm

I have iShowU, but Screenflow is so nice I'm probably going to buy a copy of that as well...

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:14 pm

I just bought CM for zebra and the dvd won't load!

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:17 pm

Anything like that for a PC?? I've got Camstudio, but I've got the same problem mentioned before about audio quality... I can use my audio interface to record an exterior input like, a mic, but not the sound from my DAW... or I can record using the native audio card and that sounds like garbage. I'm no expert on this stuff, so maybe its an obvious fix and I've just overlooked it.

...As for the subject, I think it would be nice for some tutorials on Zebra at some point. I'm still not familiar enough with it to tackle even parts of it yet, plus there's my issue w/sound using camstudio.

As stated before... Youtube has nothing to w/something being good. oh...and please use Vimeo if creating a video. Much better sound/video quality.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:19 pm

I use a program called iSHOWu for Ableton demos. I'll see about putting a really simple video together tonight. If that goes well I do a more in depth one later.