effect plugin that randomizes volume?

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Cheers vileclown, glad its of some use to you!

The variator is the key to the fast changing! ... it's random ... the variator puts a limit on the parameters of that randomness, so pulling it back will solve that prob.
I realise when testing, a low setting on the variator gives the impression that nothing significant is happening, but randomness can have that sneaky habit of seeming to do nothing til it pops a loud one in followed by a quiet one when you are at the point of giving up on it! :hihi: ... and then it can piss you off by throwing 6 quiet ones in a row ... then two or three loud ones just as you increase the volume! :)

I think what you might be looking for, as a happy medium between random and controllable, is a step sequencer thrown in. I can do that easily. You could then have a host synced volume change pattern, combined with the variable random element .... is that the ticket?

I could prob sync an LFO with variable waveform to every 'nth' neat of an instrument .... could get messy with irregular beats ... however, that would require some sequencer circuitry, so it could be added as an option alongside the host synced step sequencer.

I've not managed to date to have a step seq run successfully within an fx plug, but I think I learned enough in the building of 'Flex-N-stein4' to make that feasible :)

.. the good news is that I'm rather pleased with Varivoli, and so I am keen to experiment and expand the beast! :)

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yes i believe that would be the ticket! :) you should definitely keep updating it.. because its something that is very useful and I'm sure allot of people could use! when you get around to expanding varivoli lemme know! in the mean time i will check out all your vst's on mediafire.. which is a good site by the way i use it to back up my music online :)
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while trying it yesterday, I've noticed that the volume was changing quite rapidly, almost like a random compressor... Definitely something I've never heard before, and therefore worthy of existing (in my hard drive, I mean :hihi:).
Have fun with the updates!

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Ah ... I know the effect you mean ... As I mentioned, the volume is reset during the quiet part of the signal, like when the decay or release drops below a certain threshold.... therefore, if you set your sensitivity too low, the volume will change too soon after the attack phase ... so best experiment with the sens setting .... it may be the case that I have not tested enough, and that for certain types of signal, that VU meter becomes meaningless.

I'll certainly do a bit more work on the plug though :)

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Actually, I've just ran some more tests, and the VU meter is a good guide for all the signals I've tried. With the sens set right, the natural variation ( humanising ) you are looking for is quite a low variator setting ... around 25% ... this also takes out the noticeable changes in volume kicking in while the note/beat is in progress... this can be further minimised ( if the effect is not desired ) by gating out long tails before Varivol, and possibly pushing the sens up a little.

As I said earlier, reverb/delay placed before Varivol will also change how the vol adjusts during the sus/rel part of the signal.

Pay attention also to compression ... used before Varivol, will affect where the signal level drops to accomodate the vol change.... depending on the sound and the setting of the compressor and the sens control, this can work to the good as well as bad.
Placed after Varivol, it will level out those beats that you have sought to vary! ... so the variator level will need to be adjusted up a little to compensate. :)

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this sounds a good idea,nice one tattie.:)

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tremolo?
all he had upstairs was a crude light...

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Cheers spacedad :)

Parsec, are you asking that tremolo is added as a feature? or that you want me to build a tremolo?? :hihi:

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to the OP:
i'm curious, the problem you have seems to indicate that you mean programmed drums triggered from a sampler. What would be wrong with randomizing velocities? most if not all sequencers have such functionality...
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tattiemannie wrote: .. the good news is that I'm rather pleased with Varivoli, and so I am keen to experiment and expand the beast! :)
i think it is a very useful tool as is. thanks! keep up the good work :D

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Cheers istvankantor .... I'm not gonna get caught up in developing it just now, and having thought it through, I'm not sure I can do the step sequencer thing ... cos its an effect and that makes things awkward.
However, I was thinking about the effect on tone envelope when a drum .. particularly kick .. is physically hit harder or softer ... so I may add some kind of filter which may be random, or can be scaled to the vol level to simulate different strengths and speeds of hit.
The triggering seems to work well, so there's always the option to add a sample alongside the audio ... like the tweedledee, tweedleduo and tweedledeluxe plugs.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... um#3405429

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michu wrote:to the OP:
i'm curious, the problem you have seems to indicate that you mean programmed drums triggered from a sampler. What would be wrong with randomizing velocities? most if not all sequencers have such functionality...
yes this works. but i needed something for repeating audio samples and vsts that you would like to just have a different volume over time instead of it changing the sound.. random velocity on my vsts can be quite a difference.
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Have to bump this one! I've mainly used this as the first plugin in a send effect chain, great for varying snare reverb for example. Just got a track in the background with nice spring reverb rocking. :)

Tattimannie, have you developed it any further? Other developers, this could be a interesting project..

Still seems to be available at 4share, though needs registering with them. :?

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