Seriously, that alone was the point many were trying to make in a related thread... that they just don't care.
Your preferred method of copy protection? (poll)
- KVRAF
- 11304 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
There really should be an option for those that simply do not care... meaning they'll buy the plugins they want regardless of copy protection method or lack thereof.
Seriously, that alone was the point many were trying to make in a related thread... that they just don't care.
Seriously, that alone was the point many were trying to make in a related thread... that they just don't care.
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- KVRian
- 938 posts since 16 Nov, 2006 from Amsterdam
A dongle, since I already have both iLok and Syncrosoft... But I wouldn't easily add a third, different dongle. I don't mind serials either, or keyfiles, although these things seem to get lost when migrating to new pc's (regardless of backups and NAS).
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- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
To be perfectly honest I hate dongles and with 2 (or more) seeming to be required to get a lot of software working I am not surprised that people try to work around the need for it. I prefer to buy software with serials and dont mind challenge responses.
What I totally opose is why I have to buy a piece of inadequately built plastic that is less than durable to rely on software use at an over inflated price!
Dongles are great for machine to machine and on resintalls or new systems but I much prefer just to enter a serial.
Why software developers are passing on the costs of their perceived business loss to users, their customers is beyond me!
I buy software and dont mind the dongles but only one should only be necessary and developers/manufacturers of goods relying on them should provide free replacements and short term alternatives.
I know there's arguements of car keys etc but I see software as totally different as no one is going to steal my software. i dont have a lock on my PC.
I would be interested to see if the manufacturers and developers actually see a margin of difference with a dongle or without in their sales pre and post protection implementation and work arounds. After all I dont see Native Instruments going out of business or Ableton to name a few.
I believe companies should look within at their possible short comings and be realistic over non protected goods.
Would a majority of people who use unprotected software actually buy it? Probably not!
Nowadays there are so many quality freeware that you probably dont have to buy expensive software, another reason why software should be cheaper and not so heavily protected!
That's my steam let of!!
End of it is I do not buy any other software if it relies on dongles. I go without or wait for an alternative solution. Otherwise I buy the software :
Purchased in the last 12 months :
Native Instruments Komplete
Fabfilters
PSP Audio
Sonalksis
Vanguard
What I havent bought due to dongles but would like to own:
Rob Papens plugins
Soundtoys
Bluetubes
Auturia
to name a few
What I did buy or obtain as an alternative :
Access Virus
Prophet 08
Variety of Sound plugins
What I totally opose is why I have to buy a piece of inadequately built plastic that is less than durable to rely on software use at an over inflated price!
Dongles are great for machine to machine and on resintalls or new systems but I much prefer just to enter a serial.
Why software developers are passing on the costs of their perceived business loss to users, their customers is beyond me!
I buy software and dont mind the dongles but only one should only be necessary and developers/manufacturers of goods relying on them should provide free replacements and short term alternatives.
I know there's arguements of car keys etc but I see software as totally different as no one is going to steal my software. i dont have a lock on my PC.
I would be interested to see if the manufacturers and developers actually see a margin of difference with a dongle or without in their sales pre and post protection implementation and work arounds. After all I dont see Native Instruments going out of business or Ableton to name a few.
I believe companies should look within at their possible short comings and be realistic over non protected goods.
Would a majority of people who use unprotected software actually buy it? Probably not!
Nowadays there are so many quality freeware that you probably dont have to buy expensive software, another reason why software should be cheaper and not so heavily protected!
That's my steam let of!!
End of it is I do not buy any other software if it relies on dongles. I go without or wait for an alternative solution. Otherwise I buy the software :
Purchased in the last 12 months :
Native Instruments Komplete
Fabfilters
PSP Audio
Sonalksis
Vanguard
What I havent bought due to dongles but would like to own:
Rob Papens plugins
Soundtoys
Bluetubes
Auturia
to name a few
What I did buy or obtain as an alternative :
Access Virus
Prophet 08
Variety of Sound plugins
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- KVRian
- 765 posts since 9 Jun, 2008 from Ireland
Serial/keyfile would be my preference. 
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- KVRian
- 1477 posts since 16 Jul, 2007 from In limbo
Dongle fish.
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
i hate being punished for actually buying the software i use.
(spent hours upon hours recently to install stuff on a new computer, still haven't got things working)
Serial number / Keyfile
User embed / Pre-registered software (Cytomic / Camel Audio)

what's this? if not machine dependant:
Challenge / Response (Internet authorization w/ a computer)
:x
Dongle (iLok, eLicenser, Ect...)

x
x
i vote with my wallet: the only dongle i have is the Cubase one. it's nearly broken too (had to move twice recently).
i won't buy any dongle protected software ever again.
(spent hours upon hours recently to install stuff on a new computer, still haven't got things working)
Serial number / Keyfile
User embed / Pre-registered software (Cytomic / Camel Audio)
what's this? if not machine dependant:
Challenge / Response (Internet authorization w/ a computer)
Dongle (iLok, eLicenser, Ect...)
i vote with my wallet: the only dongle i have is the Cubase one. it's nearly broken too (had to move twice recently).
i won't buy any dongle protected software ever again.
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- KVRAF
- 3964 posts since 31 Aug, 2003 from In a foreign town, in a foreign land
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
I call BS. How could moving possibly have anything to do with breaking a dongle? Dongles have a thumbdrive formfactor: i.e. made to be carried around. Especially the Steinberg one is really sturdy... I've never broken, not even damaged or scratched a dongle or memory stick due to carrying it around.cptgone wrote:it's nearly broken too (had to move twice recently).
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7788 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Not machine specific.cptgone wrote:User embed / Pre-registered software (Cytomic / Camel Audio)
what's this? if not machine dependant:![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
I've been impressed with how Camel Audio has handles Alchemy.
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
Exactly. I couldn't care less about which CP scheme is used.elxicano wrote:There really should be an option for those that simply do not care... meaning they'll buy the plugins they want regardless of copy protection method or lack thereof.
Seriously, that alone was the point many were trying to make in a related thread... that they just don't care.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey