KVR Audio

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:16 am

polaris20 wrote:Any app with a stereo output and/or stereo input, such as Multitrack DAW, Looptastic HD, StudioTrack, etc should work fine. Multitrack DAW alone is worth it to me. It's a great app.

Is it really a great app or is it just great because it's on the iphone/ipad? I can't help thinking there's a certain novelty value attached to all this stuff. I really like the look of the Korg Electribe & i-MS20 on the ipad. The Reactable app looks awesome as well But I think I'm trying to justify an ipad rather than the products I want to run it

the dj · Post by **the dj** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:11 pm

Aye, the apps themselves do tend to fall short of what you can do on a basic laptop tho i expect with time that will change.

Angry Birds on an ipad is great tho

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:18 pm

the dj wrote:Aye, the apps themselves do tend to fall short of what you can do on a basic laptop tho i expect with time that will change.

I expect so to. But currently i-MS20 & the Electribe apps are the pick of the bunch by far I think. Not a great deal else to warrant an ipad for music & even less to warrant the Studio dock at this present time.

Angry Birds on an ipad is great tho

Don't! I got addicted to that on my wife's iphone. Hardly put it down until I'd completed every sheet ...... then more appeared!! Bloody addictive little game that.

to-pse · Post by **to-pse** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:13 pm

adydub wrote: The a/v connections via the apple dock will remain the same between versions,

Actually they are not. The audio line-in on the dock-connector has been
discontinued for the iPad, the iPhone 4 and the iPod touch 4.

That is the reason why those external mikes available for iPhone / iPod Touch
prior to to V4 won't work with the new devices anymore...

So I think that the audio-I/O is done via some kind of embedded camera
kit connection within the Studio Dock...

Tobias

the dj · Post by **the dj** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:31 pm

Dogboy73 wrote: I expect so to. But currently i-MS20 & the Electribe apps are the pick of the bunch by far I think. Not a great deal else to warrant an ipad for music & even less to warrant the Studio dock at this present time.

I have to say i'm really disappointed in the Electribe app. It needs to be more editable and have the ability to load your own waveforms/samples. As it stands it's quite basic.

Nanostudio is far better imo.

i-MS20 is great, something to really spend time learning.

polaris20 · Post by **polaris20** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:18 pm

Dogboy73 wrote:
polaris20 wrote:Any app with a stereo output and/or stereo input, such as Multitrack DAW, Looptastic HD, StudioTrack, etc should work fine. Multitrack DAW alone is worth it to me. It's a great app.
Is it really a great app or is it just great because it's on the iphone/ipad? I can't help thinking there's a certain novelty value attached to all this stuff. I really like the look of the Korg Electribe & i-MS20 on the ipad. The Reactable app looks awesome as well But I think I'm trying to justify an ipad rather than the products I want to run it

Well, that's a good question. However it needs to be taken into context. It needs to run on a 1Ghz ARM processor with 256MB of RAM.

Now, knowing that, does it sound good? Yes. Is it easy to use? Yes. Does it have the features I require for multitracking in the field? Yes. Can I quickly offload it to the Internet, e-mail, or other method? Yes.

So to answer your question, while it's not as full featured obviously as even GarageBand, for $15 it's a very good value.

If you compare it to the standalone crap from Boss or Zoom, I can't imagine preferring that to recording on an iPad with MTD and the Alesis.

adydub · Post by **adydub** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:02 pm

Dogboy73 wrote:...But currently i-MS20 & the Electribe apps are the pick of the bunch by far I think. Not a great deal else to warrant an ipad for music & even less to warrant the Studio dock at this present time.

I suppose this depends what you personally find inspiring and/or useful.

Right now I'm liking:

iMS20
iElectribe
ThumbJam
NanoStudio (super dooper awesome)
NLog Pro
M3000HD
Morphwiz
Amplitube
TouchOsc
TouchAble

There's a load of other stuff I've got that are really just fun toys (but still cool), but all the above is solidly useful. There's a ton of apps I've not tried yet that look good such as reactable, rebirth, looptastic HD, bleepbox, Music Studio etc. etc.

The other thing to consider is that when using the iPad as live - either for instruments or as a controller (RIP Jazz Mutant), the Studio Dock looks like it could also rather handy.

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:51 am

adydub wrote: Right now I'm liking:

iMS20
iElectribe
ThumbJam
NanoStudio (super dooper awesome)
NLog Pro
M3000HD
Morphwiz
Amplitube
TouchOsc
TouchAble

There's a load of other stuff I've got that are really just fun toys (but still cool), but all the above is solidly useful. There's a ton of apps I've not tried yet that look good such as reactable, rebirth, looptastic HD, bleepbox, Music Studio etc. etc.

I know most of those but the ones I don't I'm going to check out. Cheers for listing those. Incidently I was wondering if there was a definitive (or as near as you can get to it) guide for music apps on the ipad? Looking on YouTube or in the app store is a bit random & I'm not getting to see everything that's out there. Music Radar run the odd 'top ipad/iphone music apps' features ocassionally but they are not exactly comprehensive only featuring a handful of new apps.

The other thing to consider is that when using the iPad as live - either for instruments or as a controller (RIP Jazz Mutant), the Studio Dock looks like it could also rather handy.

Speaking of Jazz Mutant - I thought the Jazz Lemur looked very interesting when I first saw it. The price was pretty impressive as well! With the ipads obvious application as a controller, running the likes of TouchOSC, it could be seen as an affordable alternative to the Jazz Mutant stuff (doing my best to justify an ipad here

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Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:53 pm

Dogboy73 wrote:doing my best to justify an ipad here

....... but then again why buy an ipad when ipad 2 is just around the corner?

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/854523-appl ... ding%20nav

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing ... now-900232

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:00 pm

Dogboy73 wrote:
Dogboy73 wrote:doing my best to justify an ipad here
....... but then again why buy an ipad when ipad 2 is just around the corner?

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/854523-appl ... ding%20nav

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing ... now-900232

Those are still pics of iPad 1.
There are always rumors.

IF iPad 2 comes out soon, then the older iPad 1's will be cheap, and have already proven to have enough horsepower to run a ton of apps.

Greg

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:46 am

siriusbliss wrote:Those are still pics of iPad 1. There are always rumors.

Of course. But it seems to be a pretty strong rumour;
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ipad+2 ... CAsQpwUoAg

IF iPad 2 comes out soon, then the older iPad 1's will be cheap, and have already proven to have enough horsepower to run a ton of apps.

A mate of mine, who is an avid Mac Man, believes that the ipad 1 will almost become obsolete overnight such will be the buzz around the ipad 2. He's got a point. I've noticed iphone 3's can be sourced for free on certain mobile contracts. This has been the case since the iphone 4 was launched. The cheapest way to get the iphone 4 is still either paying a lot for the phone or a lot for your monthly contract. I've also read about newer apps that struggle or don't run at all on the older iphones. With this in mind who would go for an ipad 1 once ipad 2 is on the market? ipad 2 is expected to cost the same as the ipad does now.

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:53 am

.... Looks like they are calling it the Alesis I/O Dock now;

https://www.alesis.com/iodock

And ipad 2 tipped for April release ...... according to Elton John!!

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/ipad-2- ... -50002530/

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:46 am

Whatever happened to this?! I've not heard anything about the Alesis ipad I/O dock since last posting. And now that ipad 2 is out will it work with this anyway?!

Dogboy73 · Post by **Dogboy73** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:03 pm

...... I guess it died before it even came out!!!

I e-mailed DV to see if this would work with ipad 2. They said yes but it wouldn't fit as snug because ipad 2 is obviously thinner. So in other words the Alesis IO is obsolete 5 minutes after release!! Not unless you want your ipad 2 slipping out of it everytime you move it. Epic fail for Alesis. Real shame. I wanted this to work to sell me an ipad. Still waiting for a reason to buy one. ipad 3 probably would have come & gone before one comes up

Needs not wants.

polaris20 · Post by **polaris20** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:52 pm

Dogboy73 wrote:...... I guess it died before it even came out!!!

I e-mailed DV to see if this would work with ipad 2. They said yes but it wouldn't fit as snug because ipad 2 is obviously thinner. So in other words the Alesis IO is obsolete 5 minutes after release!! Not unless you want your ipad 2 slipping out of it everytime you move it. Epic fail for Alesis. Real shame. I wanted this to work to sell me an ipad. Still waiting for a reason to buy one. ipad 3 probably would have come & gone before one comes up Needs not wants.

I figured this would happen, because you can't count on the shape of the iPad remaining constant, whereas the dock connector will remain the same, most likely. Alesis should have just come out with a dock-connecting interface with the same IO, but in a box to cable format.

Alesis Studio Dock for iPad