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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:05 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Arturia's "Jupiter" has no relation to the sound of a real Jupiter 8. Diva's emulation is far, FAR better.

diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8

1-2-Many · Post by **1-2-Many** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:10 pm

Your right, it "Impersonates" it

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:17 pm

osiris wrote:I have Analog Factory, and the Jupiter patches don't do anything for me. However, the CS-80 and the Moogs and the Arp

Does the Analog Factory require a dongle? That is the thing that keeps me from getting any of Arturia's synths, but I would consider Analog Factory if it didn't have that requirement. Also how CPU intensive is it?

qube123 · Post by **qube123** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:34 pm

Uses either a USB dongle or a software equivalent that locks it to a particular machine.

Not CPU intensive at all in my experience.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:41 pm

Oh not the dreaded iLok! ok then, not for me.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:32 pm

braj wrote:Oh not the dreaded iLok! ok then, not for me.

I think Arturia is syncrosoft. So you use the software e-licenser if y ou don't want a dongle. To me it seems basically the same as challenge/response...

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:59 pm

ive cringed at the name arturia ever since i heard these guys were switching code between different emulations. dunno if this is still true today but just to think, they did that, makes me loose all respect for the company. i mean, that just completely defeats the purpose of an emulation

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:54 am

Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8

Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?

AstralExistence wrote:ive cringed at the name arturia ever since i heard these guys were switching code between different emulations. dunno if this is still true today but just to think, they did that, makes me loose all respect for the company. i mean, that just completely defeats the purpose of an emulation

There is always going to be plenty of code that could be duplicated between two virtual synthesizers. It would be silly for a company not to re-use their own code when making a new plugin with similar functions. I can guarantee that all of the big plugin companies do this. There are only a few general approaches to coding these things and beyond that the basic building blocks of an oscillator, filter or envelope are the same regardless of whether you are modelling a Moog, Korg, Yamaha etc.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:03 am

afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8
Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?

there's no documention that suggests diva is modelling a J8 in any way

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:23 am

Kriminal wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8
Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?
there's no documention that suggests diva is modelling a J8 in any way

The dual VCO is an emulation of the Jupiter 6/8 VCO, the Pre HPF is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 HPF, the Cascade Filter (in clean mode) is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 filter and the analogue envs are models of the Jupiter/Juno envelopes iirc.

Cheers
Dennis

risome · Post by **risome** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:37 am

braj wrote:Oh not the dreaded iLok! ok then, not for me.

You can choose a soft eliscenser or a hardware ware one The hardware one makes using the vst in another studios machine easy

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:37 am

Kriminal wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Arturia's "Jupiter" has no relation to the sound of a real Jupiter 8. Diva's emulation is far, FAR better.
diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8

Fail.

risome · Post by **risome** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:38 am

Kriminal wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8
Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?
there's no documention that suggests diva is modelling a J8 in any way

I didnt think it did either
I think they are both awesome vst synths IMHO

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:40 am

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8
Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?
there's no documention that suggests diva is modelling a J8 in any way
The dual VCO is an emulation of the Jupiter 6/8 VCO, the Pre HPF is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 HPF, the Cascade Filter (in clean mode) is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 filter and the analogue envs are models of the Jupiter/Juno envelopes iirc.

Cheers
Dennis

I recall reading an interview of Urs where he mentions Diva being pertly modelled off "those synthesiszers with Greekgod names" and that even the name Diva hearkened to this fact as it means something like goddess. I think I read it in Wusik's magazine, ill have to look for it.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:43 am

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
afreshcupofjoe wrote:
Kriminal wrote: diva doesnt emulate the jupiter8
Detailed models of the Jupiter 8 filter, envelopes, and oscillators aren't enough for you?
there's no documention that suggests diva is modelling a J8 in any way
The dual VCO is an emulation of the Jupiter 6/8 VCO, the Pre HPF is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 HPF, the Cascade Filter (in clean mode) is an emulation of the Jupiter 8 filter and the analogue envs are models of the Jupiter/Juno envelopes iirc.

Cheers
Dennis

Yes - But it has to say "Jupiter 8" before some people believe it

I personally don't care if Diva emulates a rabbit...

She sounds bloody good and that's enough for me...

My favourite VA of all time...

She's greedy with the CPU but she's worth it....

Diva is the right name....A legend for sure

Jupiter 8 V 2.5