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risome · Post by **risome** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:40 am

With some recent royalties and a special offer i just picked up the Jupiter 8v and i just want to say what a phat awesome synth this is .used a hardware version years ago and had forgotten just how good these babies sound.Warm lush deep and from now on a sonic staple in my production diet .thanks Arturia

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:18 am

Personally, I think the Jupiter modeled modules in DIVA shit all over J8V. The Jupiter was always my least favorite of the Arturia synths. I love Roland synths, but I just don't think Arturia did a very good emulation this time around. And since DIVA was released, hardly any of the Arturia stuff in my collection gets used anymore.

qube123 · Post by **qube123** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:37 am

The earlier versions of the J8V were a bit poo (IMO), however the new 64 bit version is lovely, not sure why it's different but it just sounds right now. In fact all of the new versions seem to have a polish that wasn't there before. Really enjoying the whole V collection again.

risome · Post by **risome** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:06 am

Well thats your opinion afreshcupofjoe and i respect that bro but for me it sounds awesome , has a low cpu footprint and is eminently usable , as for the s word i hardly think so.
Cheers

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:08 am

qube123 wrote:The earlier versions of the J8V were a bit poo (IMO), however the new 64 bit version is lovely, not sure why it's different but it just sounds right now. In fact all of the new versions seem to have a polish that wasn't there before. Really enjoying the whole V collection again.

That's interesting. I haven't tried it since it first came out, so maybe it has gotten better. I do remember that the Minimoog V improved remarkably in later versions, so it makes sense that the same would be true of J8V. Still, now that I have DIVA, I've pretty much jumped ship on Arturia altogether.

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:20 am

I have Arturia's Jupiter 8V 2.5 running alongside Diva in some songs and my opinion is that it's one of the few soft synths that can stand that test. Most of them simply sound too weak when Diva is present.

Version two of J8V got some important things fixed, begining with the overall loudness.

Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:35 am

I agree that the newest version just seems to sound better. I downloaded the 2.5 update and immediately noticed the difference. I was never pleased with the original version and found that it did not stand up to my memory of the real Jupiter... which memory was confirmed by comparing with some of my old DATs. But I'm pretty happy with the latest incarnation.

Viktor [TUC] · Post by **Viktor [TUC]** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:08 am

Hm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a 64bit plugin sounds identical to its 32bit cousin. It doesn't affect the sound at all, or am I mistaken?

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:29 am

I have Analog Factory, and the Jupiter patches don't do anything for me. However, the CS-80 and the Moogs and the Arp

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:45 am

Arturia's "Jupiter" has no relation to the sound of a real Jupiter 8. Diva's emulation is far, FAR better.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:13 am

The unshushable Coktor wrote:Hm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that a 64bit plugin sounds identical to its 32bit cousin. It doesn't affect the sound at all, or am I mistaken?

It really shouldn't make a difference at all. I interpreted that as they overhauled the algorithm in the plugin when they did the 64bit update. I would think the 32bit version would have the same improvements, unless they didn't do an update to the 32bit version when they released the 64bit version. There is certainly no reason why the 64bit version should sound better simply due to the fact that it is 64bit.

Awesome username, BTW.

Viktor [TUC] · Post by **Viktor [TUC]** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:31 am

afreshcupofjoe wrote:It really shouldn't make a difference at all. I interpreted that as they overhauled the algorithm in the plugin when they did the 64bit update. ...
Awesome username, BTW.

Thanks, joe!
Well you know how companies advertize it when they make the slightest change (or improvement) to the sound engine? When Arturia took the v2 step with Jupiter8V they pronounced it loud and clear that their plugin is now louder.
As much as that volume increase was welcome, I'd think that if they had somehow overhauled anything in the sound engine, we would have heard of it. They mentioned their improved filters in the MinimoogV and the CS-80V, as a response to user requests, when they released the updates.
This time though, Jupiter8V is 64bit, and a Midi-something improvement. That's it.

I've written to them several times in the past about where I thought the sound engine needed some extra work to be authentic, but there can't have been to many critical voices, as they never invested any time and money in that. Once someone from their team told me, they don't have their own J8 to check whatever I claimed. That was a few years back, and by now I've forgotten what my complaints actually were.

It's still a nice and capable synth, really. But for complete authenticity, I might look somewhere else. And also, save a sound of your own and try to decipher the exact file for it on your hard drive. A silly system they have.

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:00 am

I'm just going off what others here are saying. Like I said, I tried it back when it first came out and thought it was a pretty crappy emulation. Haven't touched it since.

risome · Post by **risome** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:10 am

Sequent wrote:I agree that the newest version just seems to sound better. I downloaded the 2.5 update and immediately noticed the difference. I was never pleased with the original version and found that it did not stand up to my memory of the real Jupiter... which memory was confirmed by comparing with some of my old DATs. But I'm pretty happy with the latest incarnation.

I agree and i am happy with it so i will get on with using it in my productions.Cheers.

qube123 · Post by **qube123** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:44 pm

afreshcupofjoe wrote:I'm just going off what others here are saying. Like I said, I tried it back when it first came out and thought it was a pretty crappy emulation. Haven't touched it since.

I was of this view, bought the v collection but didn't get on with it at all, tried the current versions and there's something different going on, even the Prophet V sounds amazing now at that was thinner than a thin thing.

It's very subtle though, can't tell you why it's better, didn't inspire before and never used it, however I am now working on a new LP that uses almost nothing else!

Would suggest having another look.

Jupiter 8 V 2.5