Tough love for Amplitube... (and a partial apology)

[zerocrossing]

To be honest, I have not experienced what you're talking about on the S100. I've done a few Eddie Van Halen presets that recreate his actual classic rig and settings: 1959 Super Lead, poweramp swapped with a 100w EL34, and all knobs(!) on 10. Plus a fat mid-freq boost via an EQ stompbox. And I did not get this noise. (In fact, it is shocking just how close the sound was immediately after cranking it.)

Some of the oldest "Custom" models that are held over from AmpliTube 1.0 have some of what you're talking about. But let's face it, AmpliTube is 10 years old. It is perhaps the oldest surviving VST ampsim still around. And it has retained its "fossil record" so its evolution is clearly on display. We haven't buried these old relics as others might, instead opting to leave them available for continuity with older projects. AmpliTube started out life as a handful of Marshall, Fender, and Vox models. We've updated AmpliTube with certified Fenders and a new Vox model. The Marshalls admittedly haven't gotten the same love. And though they have stood up well against the competition over all these years (Vintage Metal Lead is still my personal favorite in all of ATCS), perhaps they are starting to show a little age. What do you suggest we do about it?

Well, I'd update them and make sure the entire model line is up to snuff with the latest best. If someone wants to keep using the older models, let them. I still have Amplitube V2 on my machine. I'm no longer sure how you sell Amplitube... is it all ala carte? All I can say is that keeping them in their current state only serves to possibly turn someone off to your software.

I can tell you're mad, but you shouldn't be. Amplitube's made great strides and it just happens that the distance traveled just shines a light on the models that were left beind... and forgotten.

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

I'm not mad, really!
Perhaps you are expecting I should be, so you're reading that in?

AmpliTube is still sold as AmpliTube 3, AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix, AmpliTube Metal, AmpliTube Fender, and Ampeg SVX.

If you want to get a whole bundle at once, getting one of those titles is the cheapest way. The Custom Shop gives AmpliTube users another way to buy gear, plus offers some exclusive models.

Marshall amps maybe haven't gotten as much attention lately as some other brands like Fender and Orange, but they are far from forgotten!

[Kontrast13]

Although it's cool to be able to see how far things have come... maybe the best idea is to go back over them and see what can be improved upon using the methods you guys have developed over the years. There's always bound to be people complaining no matter what, but I believe that 'fixing them up' leads in the best direction. Heck, maybe a few small changes will make all the difference in the world in certain models.

[hibidy]

Wtf happened to my muthafunkin post in this???????????????

[@midnight]

I think Guitar Rig nails the classic Marshall sound much better...

[@midnight]

And the Fender tones lol

[hibidy]

Chokehold, you leave Dimi alone!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I hear "real" amps that sound like ass all the time. But yeah, a few of these sims are not that good. I must have been drunk when I demoed the "thunderverb" and bought it. Terrible. However, the tiny terror is really good

Sgear is for the marshall and the fender, the jackal doesn't sound that good to me currently. It's not enough gain and doesn't sound right as a crunch.

Peavy is too expensive and isn't updated, I hear it's buggy.......I'll pass.

@fizzy: "real" amps don't have a 20-20k frequency response. Use some filters.

The "anger" head does have too many controls Sounds nice though when played with correctly.

[hibidy]

I'm too lazy to make examples of all the stuff with recabinet. Probably someone would just say they are fizzy anyways Tones getting better there though. I'm fighting it less and less. Getting to the point where I'm just plugging in and playing instead of constantly tweaking.

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

Thanks @midnight for demonstrating that even though some of our Marshall models are literally 10 years old, they still leave the competition in the dust!

Download this free EVH preset "The Brown Sound 1984" from the AmpliTube Preset XChange and compare.


(If your aren't an IK user yet, register here to get AmpliTube Custom Shop FREE and free access to over 500 user created .at3p presets in the AmpliTube Preset XChange!)

And authentic Fender models... what is there to be said that the officially certified AmpliTube Fender models haven't said already?

[Hink]

what did the alien say to the gasoline pump?


























































Take your fingers out of your ears and listen to me

[blueman]

Marshall amps maybe haven't gotten as much attention lately as some other brands like Fender and Orange, but they are far from forgotten!

^ Pay attention kids. THIS might be a hint

[Kontrast13]

Hmm, I've got another way this can be handled...

Break down the last few older models into separate pieces like the majority of the older ones. Throw in a handful of brand new preamps, tonestacks, and poweramps to go along with that. Separate it into it's own 'amp' specifically for users to experiment with making their own amp combinations (basically like it is now but with tweaked organization). Add presets to re-create the old-fashioned Amplitube models. Then you guys can remake quite a few of them using the style you use now... straight up accuracy-based heads/combos. Maybe even combine some of the clean/lead split amps into one with a switch. Considering the fact that the remade models will surely be better based on the improved development techniques learned over the years, more of the older stuff can be added to the free version, giving users a little more to work with. If the added amp customization takes off in a strong way, it would be interesting to see specific poweramps or whatever added to the custom shop alongside exact amp emulations.

It could have interesting results

[Edit]: I guess the big picture I'm suggesting is this... Re-organize them as Classic Amplitube, give them a catch to renew interest in them (expanded customization), while adding new versions geared towards accuracy to match the style of the newer amps.

It gives the picky people something to be happy about and the tweakers something more to experiment and have fun with~

[hibidy]

Marshall amps maybe haven't gotten as much attention lately as some other brands like Fender and Orange, but they are far from forgotten!

^ Pay attention kids. THIS might be a hint

Yeah, but I'll not be able to try them anyways because 3.7.1 is a no-go

[MickGael]

Peavy is too expensive and isn't updated, I hear it's buggy.......I'll pass.

I count that as a shame. It is capable of some excellent tones. In fact, of the many VST sims I've tried it (and I've pretty much tried them all) it comes the closet to the sound of my 1968 Bassman cranked to the point of near-exploding. Also, the ability to "edit" the circuits is fascinating. Horribly buggy, though, and the interface is just awful.

[hibidy]

Peavy is too expensive and isn't updated, I hear it's buggy.......I'll pass.

I count that as a shame. It is capable of some excellent tones. In fact, of the many VST sims I've tried it (and I've pretty much tried them all) it comes the closet to the sound of my 1968 Bassman cranked to the point of near-exploding. Also, the ability to "edit" the circuits is fascinating. Horribly buggy, though, and the interface is just awful.

I have absolutely no doubt it's capable of sounding great but.....

Horribly buggy, though