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jupiter8 wrote:
Xenobt wrote:These are pretty much industry standards for the "so-bad-it's-good" testing you're talking about. They take the place of the old Auratone cubes that were in every radio and tv station from the mid 60's to the 90's:
I thought that was largely a myth and that the NS10s are actually very detailed in the midrange and very easy to mix on because of it. Even more so with the Auratones (them not having crossover filters and having only one speaker element (good phase coherent) and whatnot).
Yeah, I guess I meant they're great for checking balances, but pretty-sounding, they ain't! (Or cheap either!) They do show lots of midrange detail, but vocals and guitars can come forward on them a little much, so when you go back to something with a fuller range they're a few db too low. But they're surprisingly bassy for their size.

I sold my 70's 5Cs to an engineer in AU who was thrilled to get them for $300 usd and $70 more for shipping, so one man's meat...

And yeah, from the 90's on, NS10s served that role in most places I worked. I tried repeatedly to mix on NS10's (even with the old tissue over the tweeter trick) but once you got a mix sounding smooth on them, anywhere else there was a hole in the upper mids. They just always seemed overly harsh to me. Never had that problem with my 15" Tannoy Reds (also a single element design), what you heard translated pretty well to just about anything.

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

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Xenobt wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
Xenobt wrote:These are pretty much industry standards for the "so-bad-it's-good" testing you're talking about. They take the place of the old Auratone cubes that were in every radio and tv station from the mid 60's to the 90's:
I thought that was largely a myth and that the NS10s are actually very detailed in the midrange and very easy to mix on because of it. Even more so with the Auratones (them not having crossover filters and having only one speaker element (good phase coherent) and whatnot).
Yeah, I guess I meant they're great for checking balances, but pretty-sounding, they ain't! (Or cheap either!) They do show lots of midrange detail, but vocals and guitars can come forward on them a little much, so when you go back to something with a fuller range they're a few db too low. But they're surprisingly bassy for their size.

I sold my 70's 5Cs to an engineer in AU who was thrilled to get them for $300 usd and $70 more for shipping, so one man's meat...

And yeah, from the 90's on, NS10s served that role in most places I worked. I tried repeatedly to mix on NS10's (even with the old tissue over the tweeter trick) but once you got a mix sounding smooth on them, anywhere else there was a hole in the upper mids. They just always seemed overly harsh to me. Never had that problem with my 15" Tannoy Reds (also a single element design), what you heard translated pretty well to just about anything.

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt
Dual-Concentric and just one speaker are not really the same! However I understand what you mean, One point source from which the sound is eminating from to the ear, Great design really. Those old Red and older Golds are somewhat legends aswell as the NS10s and 5Cs. I have not seen a pair of either of those Tannoy's for ages, I like them though myself. If I do come across a pair cheap then I'd have them. Good to hear you gave you're old uglytones a loving home Xenobt and for the fond memories of older monitors I ain't seen in awhile :)

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