u-he SATIN as Reason Rack Extension?
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- KVRist
- 310 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from new england
Reason users have been in love with the tape algorithm on Scream4 for years. Having something full featured like Satin should easily pull a profit.
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- KVRist
- 139 posts since 24 Mar, 2012
I cant wait for this in the rack, and don't price it dirt cheap either. Without the delay and flanger i still say its worth at least $99.Urs wrote:Well, Clemens, Sascha and I won't spend much time on RE development. The largest part is outsourced.
Unlike an iOS app I think that a Satin RE might create some profits. We need every bit of those as we are going to move to a new location in a few months.
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839 - KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
Can we have tuna as option in poll?
Murderous duck!
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- KVRAF
- 2036 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
The presence of class leading plugins like Satin in the RE store can only be a good thing for all involved. They contribute to making the Reason environment more attractive to devoted users and guarantee sales to Urs without the threat of piracy. Assuming most of the core code is re-usable, it seems like a no brainer to me. Voting "no" on a poll like this is silly.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 113 posts since 17 Apr, 2012
It is okay to vote "no", but it would be interesting to know why they are have voted "no". I guess they are knowing that "Satin" will look and sound totally great in "Reason" and are unhappy that they don't have it. 
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- KVRAF
- 2036 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
Yeah, I'd be curious too.spktkpkt wrote:It is okay to vote "no", but it would be interesting to know why they are have voted "no". I guess they are knowing that "Satin" will look and sound totally great in "Reason" and are unhappy that they don't have it.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- u-he
- 30173 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
We have a Satin RE with nearly finished UI, but it currently doesn't work. Crashes Reason.
So we're on a global bug hunt (reflected in the Latest Builds thread) and then we hope that Satin RE will run properly. If not, then we'll try to figure it out. Unfortunately I'm the only developer at u-he dealing with this, but I'm also in charge with a lot of other things. Thus unreleased software such as Satin RE has a lower priority than, say, fixing bugs in released software.
The changes in the latest RE SDK have no influence on how our stuff works. We've always used faster maths than whatever the standard libraries provide. The new SDK still does not allow us to code on assembly level. Thus there won't be a Diva RE anytime soon.
The new UI capabilities are cool, but they are not compatible with our UI code out of the box. A complex control such as a Zebra MSEG needs to be coded from scratch, scrolling panels still seem impossible. Thankfully neither Uhbiks nor Satin need this, but a Zebra RE is still out of the picture (as well as Filterscape and MFM2 I'm afraid).
Furthermore, cables are still confined to the backside, which rules out an ACE RE or a Bazille RE.
Lastly, the UI design process is tedious and can't be done for free. This rules out our freeware offerings.
Thus, so far, Uhbik's and Satin are the only u-he plug-ins that can go RE.
Our main problem with RE is human resources. We've hired 3 more people within half a year, but getting everything up to speed takes time. That's our main bottleneck, but I hope I'll find the time to do this soon.
- Urs
So we're on a global bug hunt (reflected in the Latest Builds thread) and then we hope that Satin RE will run properly. If not, then we'll try to figure it out. Unfortunately I'm the only developer at u-he dealing with this, but I'm also in charge with a lot of other things. Thus unreleased software such as Satin RE has a lower priority than, say, fixing bugs in released software.
The changes in the latest RE SDK have no influence on how our stuff works. We've always used faster maths than whatever the standard libraries provide. The new SDK still does not allow us to code on assembly level. Thus there won't be a Diva RE anytime soon.
The new UI capabilities are cool, but they are not compatible with our UI code out of the box. A complex control such as a Zebra MSEG needs to be coded from scratch, scrolling panels still seem impossible. Thankfully neither Uhbiks nor Satin need this, but a Zebra RE is still out of the picture (as well as Filterscape and MFM2 I'm afraid).
Furthermore, cables are still confined to the backside, which rules out an ACE RE or a Bazille RE.
Lastly, the UI design process is tedious and can't be done for free. This rules out our freeware offerings.
Thus, so far, Uhbik's and Satin are the only u-he plug-ins that can go RE.
Our main problem with RE is human resources. We've hired 3 more people within half a year, but getting everything up to speed takes time. That's our main bottleneck, but I hope I'll find the time to do this soon.
- Urs
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- u-he
- 30173 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, I have PMs turned off and I have ceased my email account. The only way I can still deal with one-to-one communication is over this forum, or via support at u-he dot com. But even there I sometimes need a few days… 
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- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
it's easy, i voted "no" because i don't use reason and want that urs concentrate on the important things.Tronam wrote:Yeah, I'd be curious too.spktkpkt wrote:It is okay to vote "no", but it would be interesting to know why they are have voted "no". I guess they are knowing that "Satin" will look and sound totally great in "Reason" and are unhappy that they don't have it.
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
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