In my dreams i saw some instruments which i never saw in real life. So if i can dream it probably it is possible to build.BasariStudios wrote:So lets take out the Oscillators, the Amps, the LFOs, the FX, the Filters, all of the existing Synthezis Methods
and lets see what new we can come up with...i am wondering...maybe another Big Bang and new Physics?
Is there really anything new in digital world which was never existed before?!!
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
- Beware the Quoth
- 35520 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
yup. everything anyone dreams must be possible. that's why they're called 'dreams', right?chilly7 wrote:In my dreams i saw some instruments which i never saw in real life. So if i can dream it probably it is possible to build.BasariStudios wrote:So lets take out the Oscillators, the Amps, the LFOs, the FX, the Filters, all of the existing Synthezis Methods
and lets see what new we can come up with...i am wondering...maybe another Big Bang and new Physics?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- u-he
- 30248 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
The workflow in Zebra was absolutely new, and still is by most degree.chilly7 wrote:But do we have in Zebra modules with something radically new?!!
The oscillator effects - many are so unique, they haven't been done before or after.
Waveforms based on splines that can be morph across snapshots have not been done before, and I can't think of any synth right now that does this. No vintage hardware anyway.
Envelopes with very simple controls, yet a few multi-functional additions (loops, slopes, echoes), with full per-step velocity/key control have to my best knowledge not been done before.
Zebra still is to my best knowledge the only FM-capable-synth wit a stereo signal path. Same accounts for comb filters.
Zebra was afaik the first synth with non-destructive XY-controls that could be mapped to many parameters.
Do I need to go on?
- KVRAF
- 24455 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Not really. There is a ton of experimental and weird, unseen before stuff in the Reaktor user library.chilly7 wrote:But unfortionaly it is mostly used to creat something which was existed before.
- KVRAF
- 27000 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
This guy trolls like this from time to time... U-he just released Bazille which is a unique new synth and he happens to ask this question right now? please...Howard wrote:There are plenty. Open your eyes, look around.
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- KVRAF
- 9147 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
By its very nature, 'digital' is a language of representation and replication.
Even an act of transcendence depends on its comparison and theory that wasn't realized before.
So technically, no. There is nothing new or old that hasn't existed before.
Just a furthering of that language and better representations of them.
Even an act of transcendence depends on its comparison and theory that wasn't realized before.
So technically, no. There is nothing new or old that hasn't existed before.
Just a furthering of that language and better representations of them.
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- KVRist
- 130 posts since 31 Jan, 2014
Go no further. This is perfect.Urs wrote:The workflow in Zebra was absolutely new, and still is by most degree.chilly7 wrote:But do we have in Zebra modules with something radically new?!!
The oscillator effects - many are so unique, they haven't been done before or after.
Waveforms based on splines that can be morph across snapshots have not been done before, and I can't think of any synth right now that does this. No vintage hardware anyway.
Envelopes with very simple controls, yet a few multi-functional additions (loops, slopes, echoes), with full per-step velocity/key control have to my best knowledge not been done before.
Zebra still is to my best knowledge the only FM-capable-synth wit a stereo signal path. Same accounts for comb filters.
Zebra was afaik the first synth with non-destructive XY-controls that could be mapped to many parameters.
Do I need to go on?
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Why don't we simulate a virtual world, then create sound by reading atoms along certain lines in spacetime in that world to decide whether the waveform should go up, down, or stay the same. Then you can control the "synth" by adjusting parameters of the world, such as the dog/cat balance, money distribution, probabilities of falling pastries from the sky, and of course the "mystery knob" which turns every entity inside out to varying degrees. Obviously note information would control the "read speed" of the movement down the line. You could sell expansion packs for humans, giraffes, perhaps certain historical events, which could all be simulated and have sounds traced out of them as they happen!
Just remember to add a big LFO with a huge knob and call it the "wobble generator" to let everyone know just how bleeding edge your new world-in-a-box synth is!
OR on the other hand, we could actually use existing paradigms and tropes from the world of synthesis in novel, musical ways, and actually finish our music before we run out of time
Just remember to add a big LFO with a huge knob and call it the "wobble generator" to let everyone know just how bleeding edge your new world-in-a-box synth is!
OR on the other hand, we could actually use existing paradigms and tropes from the world of synthesis in novel, musical ways, and actually finish our music before we run out of time
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
Some people get their idias from dreams or from old antient box.whyterabbyt wrote:yup. everything anyone dreams must be possible. that's why they're called 'dreams', right?chilly7 wrote:In my dreams i saw some instruments which i never saw in real life. So if i can dream it probably it is possible to build.BasariStudios wrote:So lets take out the Oscillators, the Amps, the LFOs, the FX, the Filters, all of the existing Synthezis Methods
and lets see what new we can come up with...i am wondering...maybe another Big Bang and new Physics?
As i know some technologies where invented by reading Bible.
But Dmitri Ivanovich Mendeleev found his periodic table of elements in a dream.
I heared from a Russian sientist who was in a teem of Sergei Korolev whos teem was developing space rockets that they wear reading old Russian children stories and was shoked how it was close to what they do, because those stories where writen many centures ago.
And probably there might be many example of this.
Suternly i my self got some inspiration from dreams too which i never though or heared befor.
I saw and played instruments in dreams which i never saw or heared in real life.
So i am pretty shure there are alot of room for inovation in real life and i do think if u can imagen it u can build it!!!
Many great inventors was not supermans at all. They where like us. But the reason why they succed in making great invations because they were working hard and they did not listen to fools who where yeling "it is immpossible"!!!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
Thank u Urs. I will cheak that stuff. I just downloaded a demo.Urs wrote:The workflow in Zebra was absolutely new, and still is by most degree.chilly7 wrote:But do we have in Zebra modules with something radically new?!!
The oscillator effects - many are so unique, they haven't been done before or after.
Waveforms based on splines that can be morph across snapshots have not been done before, and I can't think of any synth right now that does this. No vintage hardware anyway.
Envelopes with very simple controls, yet a few multi-functional additions (loops, slopes, echoes), with full per-step velocity/key control have to my best knowledge not been done before.
Zebra still is to my best knowledge the only FM-capable-synth wit a stereo signal path. Same accounts for comb filters.
Zebra was afaik the first synth with non-destructive XY-controls that could be mapped to many parameters.
Do I need to go on?
P.s.
1) But no metter how far u claimbed a hill, do not stop and sey i am a king, just move higher and fester as if u did nothing!!!
2) Quality is first quanity is only if u make no compromise with quality!!!
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
What is unique in it which never existed befor?!!pdxindy wrote:This guy trolls like this from time to time... U-he just released Bazille which is a unique new synth and he happens to ask this question right now? please...Howard wrote:There are plenty. Open your eyes, look around.
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- KVRAF
- 9147 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Sendy wrote:Why don't we simulate a virtual world, then create sound by reading atoms along certain lines in spacetime in that world to decide whether the waveform should go up, down, or stay the same. Then you can control the "synth" by adjusting parameters of the world, such as the dog/cat balance, money distribution, probabilities of falling pastries from the sky, and of course the "mystery knob" which turns every entity inside out to varying degrees. Obviously note information would control the "read speed" of the movement down the line. You could sell expansion packs for humans, giraffes, perhaps certain historical events, which could all be simulated and have sounds traced out of them as they happen!
Introducing the Spontaneous Quantum Entanglement Generator!
(But the wobble knob will have to come in a future update since it currently causes temporal disturbances in dimensional membrane reality).
- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from New York
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- KVRAF
- 9147 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
That's more relative to Planck's Constant than Paradoxical Entanglement.
But at least you can add a wobble knob without tearing the continuum.

