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valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:23 pm

TMM advice makes me smile. Such mediocre sounds. Try out pro templates for your daw like from myloops.net or nextproducers.com they have the best (at least it sounds like trance you would buy also). It's much better to learn from templates then from video alone because you have everything already laid out in front of you and it's easier to see the "whole picture".

Sluga · Post by **Sluga** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:33 pm

Fail to see how looking at finished project is going to help more than having overview of whole process before that stage and none the less than "exactly that" generic thing, but again, YMMV.

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:38 pm

Sluga wrote:Fail to see how looking at finished project is going to help more than having overview of whole process before that stage and none the less than "exactly that" generic thing, but again, YMMV.

Because you didn't understand the idea behind: First comes the techniques (sc,comp,eq,automation etc) then your personal music. Only looking at a finish project will not bring you a step forward. It's more that you have the chance to learn the techniques within the context of a track. Many things to learn from.

If you have a grasp of the essential basics you can take the 2nd step alot easier.

Sluga · Post by **Sluga** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:52 pm

valerian_777 wrote:
Sluga wrote:Fail to see how looking at finished project is going to help more than having overview of whole process before that stage and none the less than "exactly that" generic thing, but again, YMMV.
Because you didn't understand the idea behind: First comes the techniques (sc,comp,eq,automation etc) then your personal music. Only looking at a finish project will not bring you a step forward. It's more that you have the chance to learn the techniques within the context of a track. Many things to learn from.

I fail to see what's your point here than, first you say it's better to see "whole picture" and learn like that than watch how whole thing is actually done, than I call you out on it and than you say basically it's not going to bring you closer, which is my point actually, tutorials will bring you closer concerning you are starting out and it's all new for you.

First comes the vision and idea, this production techniques are really secondary, who cares about compression, when you don't even have anything to apply it at, actual element, composition or idea of same or know how to do them.

This templates could be nice, same as watching "In the studio with" later on, but after one grasp basics of it and wants to expand his knowledge, but first it's important to gain basics of same.

Sluga · Post by **Sluga** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:57 pm

valerian_777 wrote:
Sluga wrote: If you have a grasp of the essential basics you can take the 2nd step alot easier.

You added this late, that's the whole point, OP doesn't, hence the thread name

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:59 pm

Sluga wrote:
valerian_777 wrote:
Sluga wrote:Fail to see how looking at finished project is going to help more than having overview of whole process before that stage and none the less than "exactly that" generic thing, but again, YMMV.
Because you didn't understand the idea behind: First comes the techniques (sc,comp,eq,automation etc) then your personal music. Only looking at a finish project will not bring you a step forward. It's more that you have the chance to learn the techniques within the context of a track. Many things to learn from.
I fail to see what's your point here than, first you say it's better to see "whole picture" and learn like that than watch how whole thing is actually done, than I call you out on it and than you say basically it's not going to bring you closer, which is my point actually, tutorials will bring you closer concerning you are starting out and it's all new for you.

First comes the vision and idea, this production techniques are really secondary, who cares about compression, when you don't even have anything to apply it at, actual element, composition or idea of same or know how to do them.

This templates could be nice, same as watching "In the studio with" later on, but after one grasp basics of it and wants to expand his knowledge, but first it's important to gain basics of same.

You mentioned "looking" but it's not about looking only if you take a template for learning , thats what you don't understand. Furthermore you also failed to understand the whole rest so i leave it as that.

Sluga · Post by **Sluga** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:29 pm

Even whole template in MIDI without single thing bounced is still less than whole tutorial that came before that, reasoning and decisions, actual tutoring and real world producing situation, seeing someone else work and all the other fun stuff, templates doesn't have that, you can trace his final decisions in there, you can see with what he ended up with, but you can't know why he ended up with that and in tutorial he expand on it and even more, so this is why I think templates can't beat tutorials, if you think I'm missing out on something important in templates over tutorials, than please tell, what I meant by looking in template is exactly looking on end result, rather than being brought up to that stage anyways.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:04 pm

There is nothing like "big picture". Everybody knows how tracks in their desired genre are constructed. The issue it to get all the elements in right proportion and arrangement, to mix the tracks together.
For example, you can't know if the track #13 was strongly filtered only make space for track #21 until the author tells you so. It's always tradeoff between many qualities and ideas that found complete arrangement. Just looking at single parts is nothing.

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