MXXX Improvements & Feature Requests

[MeldaProduction]

Preset making action is on!

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6&t=439436

[Touch The Universe]

I don't have mxxx but can I save multi fx presets in mpowersynth that could be opened in mxxx and vice versa so maybe I can win a price (if there is one ) when you run a preset contest

[MeldaProduction]

First of all MXXX is the prize, but note that making MXXX presets is much more complex. You can start with YOUR modular sections in MPowerSynth, but you'll need a lot of adjustments and we expect a reasonable GUI here . Check the instructions very carefuly, especially you

[dmbaer]

This is a question, not a feature request. For MXXX modules that have dry/wet controls or something similar that allows the user to effectively turn them fully off, are those modules smart enough to bypass their processing to avoid pointless consumption of CPU resources when in the fully-bypassed (or essentially "off") state? I realize that some module types do processing that is so trivial it would make little difference. But for heavy hitter modules like, say, convolution, it could be significant. Of course we now have the capability to explicitly disable modules (and thank you for that!), but I find I'm frequently running short of multi-parameters and don't have enough to also add on/off buttons to the simple interface.

[MeldaProduction]

It depends, in most cases not really, for simple reason (besides complexity and the fact, that in most cases having 0% dry/wet doesn't make sense) - the plugin cannot know you are not going to change the value! In most plugins except for a waveshaper and few others the output depends on the input. So the plugin cannot stop processing even if the dry/wet is 0%, because you may be modulating/automating dry/wet and in that cases it wouldn't work correctly right after you'd increase it above 0%. Yep, complex it is ...

[xNiMiNx]

Any ETA on "A video tutorial shall appear soon". Just curious if this will appear before or after the end of june.

Cheers.

[MeldaProduction]

Still waiting for the editor... damn...

[Tagirijus]

Feature request regarding MIDI:
Just wondering if it could be possible in the future to have some internal MIDI routing inside MXXX. Why? This way you could let MTuner control a MOsc insider MXXX.

Or am I missing something again and it is already possible?

[MeldaProduction]

You can just use a modulator in Pitch mode .

[Tagirijus]

Ouch! I forget that. Damn your plugins are too versatile sometimes, hehe.

Thansk!

[MeldaProduction]

[dmbaer]

OK, I have done almost all my 20 presets – having spent well over 40 hours on the project (admittedly, much of that time climbing the learning curve). I’m deeply impressed with the power in MXXX, but I’m also feeling two distinct lacks. One I’ve already mentioned: the inability to assign multiple modulators to a single destination. I hasten to say that I have come to realize just how powerful the modulation/multi-parameter capability is, and if the lack of a multiple-modulator capability is the victim of that design, then it’s probably a worthy sacrifice … but I still miss them. I would just love to see a modulator that operates “on current value” rather than designating what the “center” value or “base upper/lower” value actually is. If this is totally impossible due to technical considerations, then those are the breaks. But if it’s doable, I hope you’ll solicit input from other users to see if there is any widespread interest.

The other thing, the more important one IMO, is something that has guided what presets I’ve decided to build – or more significantly, what preset types I’ve decided to avoid because they are too specific and not very user tweakable. Consider the LFO-tool plug-in from XFer. This does all kinds of very useful things that would be easy to implement in MXXX (and implement in a way that makes the functionality even more powerful than that in LFO-tool). But, what’s missing is the ability of the preset user to easily get in and edit the modulation curves. That’s what makes LFO-tool so easy to use. The curves are right there in the interface for you to tweak.

Now, if you are throwing together your own effect combo using MXXX, you know where things are: you know which modulators are doing which things. If you want to change an LFO shape or a sequencer MSeg shape (probably not the right word, but I don’t know a better one), for example, you’d know where to go to do it – you know what modulator window to call up. Not a big deal. At least until you come back to it three months later and don’t remember any details about what modulators do what. More importantly, if you are using somebody else’s preset and want to tweak some things, you cannot easily and quickly find where you need to do it.

I don’t have a specific solution to recommend, but it strikes me that if there is some way to make graphic windows easily/immediately accessible from the simple (non-Edit) view, this would go a long way toward solving the dilemma. Perhaps there are other cases where an EQ graph (rather than an modulator curve) would make sense to have exposed. Perhaps there are still other cases where a diagnostic graphic (e.g., stereoscope) would turn the preset into a powerhouse preset. Maybe we’re talking about adding a new button type that can call up a separate graphics window. Maybe we’re talking about an optional graphic that takes over the space used by the browser. Like I said, I don’t have a specific solution in mind, but I hope I have communicated the need clearly enough.

Sorry for the long-winded entry. Hopefully it has been worth your time.

[elassi]

the inability to assign multiple modulators to a single destination.

This - sorry to say that - annoys me too, especially with MPower synth.

[Tagirijus]

OK, I have done almost all my 20 presets – having spent well over 40 hours on the project (admittedly, much of that time climbing the learning curve).

Besides: I am really curious what other users did. Really looking forward to it!

the inability to assign multiple modulators to a single destination.

Did you think about assigning one modulator to the others modulator range settings or similar parameters? I just tested it: MOD 1 controls a parameter in the effects and MOD 2 controls the range of the MOD 1. Funny results! Just an idea.

But, what’s missing is the ability of the preset user to easily get in and edit the modulation curves.

I think I might misunderstand you now, but the thing that came to my mind immediately: text information about multiparameter are already there. Did you try to write info about the MP (I just know realize that MP can be short for multiparameter AND Meldaproduction, hehe ... I mean multiparameter in this case) ? ... well except info for modulators, indeed. I created patches in which MPs control modulators and the MPs got the info text for better understanding. Again: just some random thoughts from me.

Perhaps there are still other cases where a diagnostic graphic (e.g., stereoscope) would turn the preset into a powerhouse preset. Maybe we’re talking about adding a new button type that can call up a separate graphics window. Maybe we’re talking about an optional graphic that takes over the space used by the browser.

A similar thing came into my mind regarding the utilities like analyzer and so on. I think they would have much more sense in MXXX if their graph could be placed on the non-edit screen somehow.

[MeldaProduction]

Multiple modulators & modulation around center value - I'm aware of this "problem", but sadly there's no real simple solution for that. It would need a total redesign, which seems like a huge overkill, since it's something not so common and you can always simulate it by modulating/automating modulator's range. It's not exactly ideal, true, but... I'll think about it anyway, but I don't see it very positively...

Showing modulation curves / analyzers in the active preset - Well, I was thinking about it from the whole beginning. But it's very problematic actually and eventually I decided that it's not the actual purpose really. If you want to edit curves, you can do that from edit screen. But the active presets have a different purpose - it's for those used to rotate a few knobs to get the results done... so...