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tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:59 pm

EvilDragon wrote:So, it was not about the resulting sound, just about the actual sidechaining feature.

Mostly yeah.

I saw it in one of the Hollo presets I think and thought 'how the f......ck did he do that!

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:54 am

tehlord wrote:Put simply I'd seen this routing done, couldn't figure out how to do it from the manual…

Clearly explained on page 14: "Any module can be used to route signals between lanes. To select the source (‘Input’) lane for a module, right-click on its cell..."

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:32 pm

Howard wrote:
tehlord wrote:Put simply I'd seen this routing done, couldn't figure out how to do it from the manual…
Clearly explained on page 14: "Any module can be used to route signals between lanes. To select the source (‘Input’) lane for a module, right-click on its cell..."

I already read that (on page 15) and knew how to do it anyway. It still didn't answer my specific question about routing as per my screenshot above (which Evildragon answered).

I have the manul printed and bound and have read it back to back on more than one occasion!

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:21 am

So it's XMF-specific. Page 37 (might be page 38 in yours, tehlord)

"FilterFM
For audio-rate cutoff modulation from the XMF’s second input. By default, the FM source is the same as the input signal, but using a different FM source can be highly rewarding: right-click on the [XMF] cell to change the sidechain input to another lane – and put something in that lane!"

However: I agree that it's easily missed there, so I'm thinking about adding a bit of module-specific info to the section about the main grid.

zethus909 · Post by **zethus909** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:45 am

scoplunk wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Right click the filter module, sidechain. Oh, and you can do this only with XMF, not VCF.
I thought the OP wanted to mix the audio of both oscillators through a single filter on a different lane, so this won't work, right? As far as I know, the side chain input of an XMF doesn't route the audio from an oscillator through the filter. It allows the side chain signal to modulate the filter.

THis is what i dont understand...What is the difference between sidechain and input into a filter......plus on page 15 of the manual it says this

In this example, both OSC1 and OSC2 flow into XMF1 (a filter). The XMF1 output is
then mixed with (not processed by!) OSC3, and sent further down lane 1. OSC4 modulates
XMF1 cutoff, and OSC4 is also available as unprocessed signal in Lane 2.

how is osc4 "modulating" a filter cutoff....is that with the sidechain?

regarding the 2 osc in 2 different lanes...into one filter...so thats only available in xmf......but can you have just both the unprocessed signals into that xmf? or one has to be sidechained signal and only one can be th e "input"...then right?

what is the difference between SAME and input 1, i dont get that......

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:08 am

Inversoundzzz wrote: how is osc4 "modulating" a filter cutoff....is that with the sidechain?

My understanding is that it's not. It's Filter FM that's being modulated by the sidechain input, not cutoff.

And as far as I understand it 'same' means the same as input 1 if both modules are in lane 1

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:15 pm

@tehlord: "Filter FM" is just cutoff modulation at audio rate. The sidechain input does indeed modulate cutoff.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:05 pm

Howard wrote:@tehlord: "Filter FM" is just cutoff modulation at audio rate. The sidechain input does indeed modulate cutoff.

Gotcha

I didn't learn this much when I was at school

u-he

KVR Audio

Parallel oscillators feeding a single filter?