Diva VS Strobe2

[Bathrobe]

just considering the facts.

While also their latest VST plug-ins are pretty good sound-wise, I don't think they "nail" the sound fully, and I don't think they're done as well as they should have been, in terms of CPU, features and usability. I think they still have some way to go before they excel at doing VST plug-ins of their own legacy.

The Roland plug-in´s sound a bit different without the System 1/-m .
I bet your plugins would sound different too if they were coming from a dedicated hardware

[chk071]

just considering the facts.

Fact is also, TAL has been doing this for a while, guys at Roland are literally newbees in analogue modeling on x86 hardware.

Also, I overheard someone saying that all people at Roland involved with creating analogue synthesizers are retired / have passed away by now and thus Roland has a big problem understanding "analogue". They may still have schematics, parts and circuit boards, but without that knowledge of those engineers they have pretty much the same starting point as anybody else, with maybe the advantage of great resources and the disadvantage of being new to the game. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.

While also their latest VST plug-ins are pretty good sound-wise, I don't think they "nail" the sound fully, and I don't think they're done as well as they should have been, in terms of CPU, features and usability. I think they still have some way to go before they excel at doing VST plug-ins of their own legacy.

That would be a shame really, especially considering the price of their plugins and hardware. But then, i'm not exactly convinced of their latest stuff, say in the last 10-15 years, either. And TAL is great, that's for sure.

[nevernamed]

just considering the facts.

Fact is also, TAL has been doing this for a while, guys at Roland are literally newbees in analogue modeling on x86 hardware.

Also, I overheard someone saying that all people at Roland involved with creating analogue synthesizers are retired / have passed away by now and thus Roland has a big problem understanding "analogue". They may still have schematics, parts and circuit boards, but without that knowledge of those engineers they have pretty much the same starting point as anybody else, with maybe the advantage of great resources and the disadvantage of being new to the game. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.

While also their latest VST plug-ins are pretty good sound-wise, I don't think they "nail" the sound fully, and I don't think they're done as well as they should have been, in terms of CPU, features and usability. I think they still have some way to go before they excel at doing VST plug-ins of their own legacy.

Hence my bet is on TAL.

We've got a SH-101 in the studio and TAL is a spitting image. The Roland plugout version is not.

[Kebmaster]

TAL 101 is absolutely awesome! Virtually in the same league as Repro I would say, not quite as sharp, but definitely got that analog , organic character, with great filter and oscillators. The Roland is amazing aswell, but more expensive.

[dave dove]

TAL 101 is spot on. instant recognition if you know the SH-101.

[Echoes in the Attic]

TAL 101 is spot on. instant recognition if you know the SH-101.

Unfortunately not quite. The Roland one nails it better, especially for punchy basses, which the 101 was great for. I wish the TAL one was as good because I like TAL and I have the Uno LX, and I kind of hate Roland and their shady plugin business. But the Roland 101 plugout is just so good.

[david.beholder]

Echoes in the Attic - do/did you have actual 101? Because all my experiences with real 101 were completely opposite.