Stupid questions about the evergoing not warm enough Zebra debate
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839
- KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
Zebra is mammal so it has almost constant temperature.
Please don't use zebra as heater and dress up properly.
Please don't use zebra as heater and dress up properly.
Murderous duck!
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- KVRAF
- 8413 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
Zebra can sound very warm and analog providing you put the time into programming it. For added realism, using something like TDZ helps even more, so i don't really get the Zebra isn't warm enough argument?
Yes it might not sound "analog" out of the box like Diva, but then again that's why something like Diva was designed.
You have to think of Zebra as a Swiss army style knife, it starts out very clean but it gives you the option to "dirty" up the sound as you see fit. If you want that effortless "warmth" then Diva is designed for that purpose, as you barely need to do much "warming" up with it.
Diva can be noisy, aggressive and very "warm" and sometimes it can be too much and will mess with your mix if you don't equalize it or apply post processing. I imagine this is also how working with real vintage analog synthesizers is as well.
Yes it might not sound "analog" out of the box like Diva, but then again that's why something like Diva was designed.
You have to think of Zebra as a Swiss army style knife, it starts out very clean but it gives you the option to "dirty" up the sound as you see fit. If you want that effortless "warmth" then Diva is designed for that purpose, as you barely need to do much "warming" up with it.
Diva can be noisy, aggressive and very "warm" and sometimes it can be too much and will mess with your mix if you don't equalize it or apply post processing. I imagine this is also how working with real vintage analog synthesizers is as well.
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- KVRAF
- 26988 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I specifically like that Zebra can sound good when making 'thin' sounds... Like lots of beautiful acoustic instruments
So called 'warm' and 'phat' is over-rated.
So called 'warm' and 'phat' is over-rated.
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839
- KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
I actually like it too, very useful in ambient or techno for really thin and hidden pads.pdxindy wrote:I specifically like that Zebra can sound good when making 'thin' sounds... Like lots of beautiful acoustic instruments
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Murderous duck!
- KVRAF
- 3479 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Well, a good acoustic bass is quite warm and fat. So is a classic guitar. Maybe not in the "Moog-esque" way, but they are far from thin.pdxindy wrote:I specifically like that Zebra can sound good when making 'thin' sounds... Like lots of beautiful acoustic instruments
So called 'warm' and 'phat' is over-rated.
- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
Sometimes I'll go to Zebra and think it sounds a little sterile but then other times i'll turn to it after playing with something like Spire for a few hours and be taken aback by just how clear and good Zebra sounds. I've got enough saturation options to add dirt/grit/warmth to any track so its not really an issue either way, but its nice to have a variety of synths with their own character and Zebra certainly has that.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Getting warm sounds in Zebra is all about sound design so not sure where to start...
Complaining that synth Z doesn't sound as warm as synth "X" isn't fair IMO, anyway...
Made a video showing how to get thick "phat" sounding waves with the Comb filter "blown" mode
I'm thinking to make a video series like this on YouTube, would somebody like that?
Complaining that synth Z doesn't sound as warm as synth "X" isn't fair IMO, anyway...
Made a video showing how to get thick "phat" sounding waves with the Comb filter "blown" mode
I'm thinking to make a video series like this on YouTube, would somebody like that?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 131 posts since 18 Jul, 2015
Aaah Thanx 3ee !
AND YES ! I'm really interested in a video series like that.
Thanx for this first trick with the comb filter as a fat waveshaper, will be useful
That's exactly these kind of tips and Tricks I'm looking for with Zebra
AND YES ! I'm really interested in a video series like that.
Thanx for this first trick with the comb filter as a fat waveshaper, will be useful
That's exactly these kind of tips and Tricks I'm looking for with Zebra
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
Absolutely! I love focused Zebra tutorials and still go back and re-watch Howard's mini tutorials to remind me of things I forgot or overlooked. More of this information is always valuable. I never thought of using the blown comb mode to fatten waveforms, in fact I rarely use that comb mode at all because of its strong dissonance.3ee wrote:I'm thinking to make a video series like this on YouTube, would somebody like that?
Thanks!
Feel free to call me Brian.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 60F7CF76BAere2learn wrote:Link?bmrzycki wrote: Howard's mini tutorials
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Cool, 1st I'll have to study (at least a tiny) bit about video production and organize the series... should be quite a few episodes! 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 131 posts since 18 Jul, 2015
3ee: if it's of any help, I've been working in the video production business (mostly editing and motion designing) for 15 years, so if you have some questions or else, don't be shy and PM me I'll be glad to lend a hand if necessary
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- KVRAF
- 26988 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I didn't say every acoustic instrument is thin... but plenty are, especially compared to the relentless effort towards more and bigger... like the loudness wars... I like music with dynamic range and instruments with diverse characterexmatproton wrote:Well, a good acoustic bass is quite warm and fat. So is a classic guitar. Maybe not in the "Moog-esque" way, but they are far from thin.pdxindy wrote:I specifically like that Zebra can sound good when making 'thin' sounds... Like lots of beautiful acoustic instruments
So called 'warm' and 'phat' is over-rated.
Zebra can easily be big and round and full... and it can easily be thin and sparse... and can sound organic and lively at both. Zebra starts at a neutral place, leaving it up to the artist to shape it into what you want. Then it provides a remarkable set of tools for doing just that.
