Waveform Linux problems

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solomute wrote:The topic is called linux problems and that is to the point because linux for me had problems almost in every aspect. I had to compile things myself because for example scala microtuning program had to be hacked to become functional with copying libs from other linux distros and all that stuff. It's not only tracktion which is worth moving to windows but mostly drivers, normal 3d support, soundbanks, etc. The only worthy thing about linux was oss driver which is no longer developed. Concerning latency there is such thing as the more vst plugins you load the longer latency you need to process them. So the guy who told here that he can enjoy 64 samples is kind of deceiving the readers. Yes perhaps with one sf2 soundbank loaded he can enjoy that latency if his hardware is 100% stable but with dozons of large soundbanks loaded it's not possible to get such a latency unless he uses some hardware accelerators which i don't know. Perhaps some universal audio soundcards can provide it. As for me as i told the smallest useable latency for me on linux was 1024 samples and with a lot of vsts loaded it had to be 2048 and more. The more vsts i loaded the larger latency i had to assign and even with a large latency i had to spend a couple of days to record the song into a file because of the constant xruns. I don't care what causes xruns - either bad linux drivers which I believe are made in some hackery way or bad alsa\oss api. I am not a masochist. And when i moved to windows most of my problems were solved. And tracktion's engine is the best. It beats reaper totally. You can process audio with 2-3 nebula plugins in chain in real time while reaper chokes when you load some hungry plugin like tubedrive vst guitar amp, ie reaper is totally defeated by one plugin eating more than about 10-15% of cpu in a track.
I'd believe the 64 samples. I'm actually back on win 10, not because linux was crap with audio but because I want to try my hand at xamerin and maybe..ahem..because i really miss sgear. I generally run at 512 samples on linux and win, just keep it conservative, don't see any point sailing too close to the wind. I don't know what your setup was but with jack in ubuntu 16.04 I could run tim pethericks solid spring reverb which is a beast, in real time. In windows that reverb chokes, you just have to print it and hope for the best.

But yes waveform plugin window on gnome goes to the back where on windows the behavior is what it should be

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fwsuperhero wrote:So KDE doesn´t hide the VST window when you click anywhere inside the Waveform? Good...
For me it does, both in KDE and MATE so I guess it's not a gtk/qt issue.

If you click the VST in the track after you clicked another object in waveform, the VST windows pops back to front. Not great but better than resizing/minimizing the main window.
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farlukar wrote:
fwsuperhero wrote:So KDE doesn´t hide the VST window when you click anywhere inside the Waveform? Good...
For me it does, both in KDE and MATE so I guess it's not a gtk/qt issue.

If you click the VST in the track after you clicked another object in waveform, the VST windows pops back to front. Not great but better than resizing/minimizing the main window.
Yes, but you can not compare for example two EQs this way...
Right now i am testing Waveform on Windows and it is almost bugfree.

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Hey guys,

I just downloaded and installed Tracktion Waveform on my Gentoo linux. I have jack 2 installed which Waveform seems to use, but the system output doesn't show up in the audio configuration panel of Waveform. I can use other jack outputs though. Even the input has the system, But no system output.

Also, I can't load any plugins. Have installed the Essentials & Collective .so files to corresponding directories. But the scanning says:
"Note that the following files appeared to be plugin files, but failed to load correctly"
And then lists all the plugins.
(Even tried the ancient suggestion in a post on Tracktion T4 about using gdb to work around a known bug. But no joy. (that bug is so old, rotten anyway)

Any thought on any of these?! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

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saeidscorp wrote:Hey guys,

I just downloaded and installed Tracktion Waveform on my Gentoo linux. I have jack 2 installed which Waveform seems to use, but the system output doesn't show up in the audio configuration panel of Waveform. I can use other jack outputs though. Even the input has the system, But no system output.

Also, I can't load any plugins. Have installed the Essentials & Collective .so files to corresponding directories. But the scanning says:
"Note that the following files appeared to be plugin files, but failed to load correctly"
And then lists all the plugins.
(Even tried the ancient suggestion in a post on Tracktion T4 about using gdb to work around a known bug. But no joy. (that bug is so old, rotten anyway)

Any thought on any of these?! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
For me to get it to detect the plugins properly i had to disable simultaneous scans.
In "Settings->Plugins->Plugin Scanning options->Number of simultaneous scans" set to 1 and also enabling/disabling "Use a separate process for plugin scanning" will "sometimes" help, but now simultaneous scans seems to be disabled by default.

In jack i do have a system input/output, but they are the only ones usable, as for the other ones, the list seems to be reversed.... Waveform tries to use a readable port as an output and a writable one as the input. I can remap them, but the order matters. I need to connect Waveform to another port before i disconnect it from the system one, if i dont do that, it will crash...
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Hello
Should we post our found linux bugs here, or is there another default?
thx

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Depends on the issue but it might be best to start a new topic as things can get lost deep in other threads.

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