I'm new to logic, I don't get it!

[Bigg John]

Get the Apple Pro series Logic Guide... You will be Logicized in a week!

I thoroughly enjoyed working through that book. Has any body taken the certification test yet??? Has any one taken any of the pro tools tests yet ???

[Bigg John]

Hi There,

Logic is a pretty hard program to gets to grips with as there is a lot more to learn with it. But you don't need to know every single thing about it. Just get to know the basics and start there really.

Try and build a small track until you get used to how things are set up. I have pretty much used all soft studios/seq out there and I would say the Logic is the toughest to crack. After all music producers use it to release tracks that he will hear in clubs, radio, charts, etc... so it's top end stuff.

Hope this little bit of advice helped.

Paul

Man, I started out on cubase 3.7 than 5.1, use to love it . going back and using it now drives me crazy. Lack of good plugz, the way you have to double click the mute button in the mixer when switching from the arrange window, the ill-implemented screensets, all those freakin windows open with no easy way to close them down. reminds me of a machine heavily infected with spyware. No offense all you Steinbergians, cubase is just not for me.

My point (opinion), Logic is definately worth the learning curve.

[Sascha Franck]

There's a Logic FAQ being compiled by the Logic user group (to be found @ Yahoo):
http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/

This should help you immensely.

In case it doesn't, I could post some rather simple song with the most basic things set up properly (such as a few virtual instruments, some busses, linked editors and the likes).

[Johnnycarcaz]

1)in the arrange select and audio track and click it twice. This should take you to the main mixer. You will see each track has an audio device. On the audio instrument device your gonna see empty boxes. These boxes are for placing either VSTe or a VSTi. Hold down the lower empty box and you'll select an instrument.

2)Go back to the arrange and highlight the audio instrument track you added the VSTi. Draw in a track. Go to windows and play with the matrix editor and the hyper editor. BTW most USB midi controllers work automatically (OSX has excellent midi support)and by highlighting the audio instrument track should allow the midi notes to go through. Check the midi settings if it doesnt work.

3)Select Windows and try each of the main windows and learn the short-cuts.

These basic things should give you enough confidence to explore logic.

I learned Logic with no manual or cheat book. My ADD kinda prohibits that.

anyways try that stuff and leave a message and I will follow it up with more tricks
-j

[Aeros]

ok... I have been reading like a MAD man, and i am finally getting some good tracks down.. I'm working on 2 right now, a slow vocal trance track, and a fast (170 bpm) dnb track. I couldn't be more pleased. However, I think as far as fx routing, and some complex things go, I still have a lot to learn. for instance, i understand very little of "cabling" "busses" the environment window, etc... I reeally think that learning those would make the process more efficient. I guess I should just keep at it. I will post these 2 songs soon, I think they are pretty amazing for only being a few weeks. Already I love logic!

[DevonB]

Aeros, Try grabbing some pdf's on hardware mixers and read about bussing and routing. One of those new descriptions might make it 'click' for you better.

Devon

[Bigg John]

ok... I have been reading like a MAD man, and i am finally getting some good tracks down.. I'm working on 2 right now, a slow vocal trance track, and a fast (170 bpm) dnb track. I couldn't be more pleased. However, I think as far as fx routing, and some complex things go, I still have a lot to learn. for instance, i understand very little of "cabling" "busses" the environment window, etc... I reeally think that learning those would make the process more efficient. I guess I should just keep at it. I will post these 2 songs soon, I think they are pretty amazing for only being a few weeks. Already I love logic!

The environment is the hardest thing in logic. it's not something that you need to be an expert in right away.

Very basically , objects perform operations on midi signals. the cables represent midi signal flow. the midi signal flow starts at the physical input (on the clicks and ports layer). it follows the path of the cables and passes through the objects and ends going into the sequencer input (also at the clicks and ports layer).

If you select individual objects in the env. window. their parameters appear on the left hand side of the window, and from there you can adjust what they do.

Nothing can go into the arrange window untill you put it into the environment. everything you see in the track list in the Arr window has a corresponding object. any time you double click something in the tracklist, an enviroment window pops up and displays the selected object .

This is awesome if you want to build a custom midi controller for something like the podxt or anything that can be controlled by midi.

go to www.swiftkick.com . buy the good Dr Sasso's environmental toolkit ($15) and download some of the free premade environments he has there. if you have any midi gear there is probably already a premade environment there.

Yeah, logic has a big learning curve, but it's flexability is amazing.

Can't wait to hear your tunes Aeros

[Aeros]

Ok... One more thing I need help in... hehe . I want to add 2 bars to the beginning of a current track, so i do cmd A to select all, and move them back 2 bars. however, the automation (hyperdraws) for the tracks don't move back with the midi notes. How can I get them both to move together? I am almost finished with this song, and I really want to post it soon!

[jeroleen]

I know what you mean. I got Logic 6 about a year ago. At first, I found it was too time consuming to learn. More importantly, I had Digital Performere 4 and was already quite familiar with DP and had developed some decent facility on it.

So, everytime I wanted to record something, the idea of struggling with Logic as opposed to working with DP smoothily and efficiently made the choice a no-brainer but it did nothing to advance my ability on Logic.

I finally spent some time getting the hang of it and it started to come together. I also began to realize that Logic is, functionally anyway, similar to DP. They do virtually the same things. The difference is in the GUI. I find DP to be much more elgant and musical whereas Logic is kind of forced, overly complex and, in some ways, not as musical or fluid as DP.

Of course, I am biassed because I have more facility on one than the othere.

Still, if I can add anything I can say that both Logic and DP offer truly great opportunities for musicians that did not exist prior to their invention.

You should be very please about the posibilities you are about to unleash. Take your time and work with it.

The best thing I can say is that when I first got DP, I felt exactly the same way I fels about Logic when I got that. I know from experience that you need time with programs with this level of complexity but it is well worth it.

For me, DP, Logic, etc. represents a lifetime of exciting possilbitities and I, for one, am very, very happy to be alive now with such possiblities before us.

Yeah, sure, the music biz is in shambles to some degree but, the life of a musician has been so deeply enriched in other ways. Other important ways. Musicians have only begun to Stretch out on the possibilites these fine instrumentes offer.

Your job now is to learn, create, share, grow, give, take, expand, morph and use all that is available for the advancement of musical expression through computers and the internet, This is the mandate because I truly believe that musicians are on the forefront of new possibilites for mankind and we should rise to the occasions.

I realize I have gone phylosophical on you but since you are on the cusp of entereing a great world, I think some high browed encouragement is not totally uncalled for.

Good Luck, Enjoy it and I wish you many, many years of creativity.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[DHR53]

I just loaded Logic Platinum on my new G5 dual... Serious processor management going on in there! Definately the best optimized software for the Mac, G5 that is... and dual processors in general! Wow... I was wondering what the difference would be, and it's BIG! Compared to my old single G4. It's a no-brainer if you have a G5... It's not difficult to learn anyway... I bet anyone that says it's hard to learn, never went through a book!

[Aeros]

It is done! I finally finished my first major song w/ logic. I posted my 2 projects online, (FutuRace isn't quite done yet, but Constellation is) Enjoy them, I hope to get some radio play with constellation, I think they both go to show just how powerful logic can be! Oh, and use headphones, because that's the best way to get the full stereo-ness. If you like them, please drop me a line, I'm always anxious to hear feedback.

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[Alfalfa]

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[aMUSEd]

ok... I have been reading like a MAD man, and i am finally getting some good tracks down.. I'm working on 2 right now, a slow vocal trance track, and a fast (170 bpm) dnb track. I couldn't be more pleased. However, I think as far as fx routing, and some complex things go, I still have a lot to learn. for instance, i understand very little of "cabling" "busses" the environment window, etc... I reeally think that learning those would make the process more efficient. I guess I should just keep at it. I will post these 2 songs soon, I think they are pretty amazing for only being a few weeks. Already I love logic!

The environment is the hardest thing in logic. it's not something that you need to be an expert in right away.

Very basically , objects perform operations on midi signals. the cables represent midi signal flow. the midi signal flow starts at the physical input (on the clicks and ports layer). it follows the path of the cables and passes through the objects and ends going into the sequencer input (also at the clicks and ports layer).

If you select individual objects in the env. window. their parameters appear on the left hand side of the window, and from there you can adjust what they do.

Nothing can go into the arrange window untill you put it into the environment. everything you see in the track list in the Arr window has a corresponding object. any time you double click something in the tracklist, an enviroment window pops up and displays the selected object .

This is awesome if you want to build a custom midi controller for something like the podxt or anything that can be controlled by midi.

go to www.swiftkick.com . buy the good Dr Sasso's environmental toolkit ($15) and download some of the free premade environments he has there. if you have any midi gear there is probably already a premade environment there.

Yeah, logic has a big learning curve, but it's flexability is amazing.

Can't wait to hear your tunes Aeros

I didn't really get the environment until I started playing with energy XT and realised Logic got there first.

That being said, It's possible to spend nearly all your time in the arrange screen and using the mixers - I never used the environment till I wanted to bung in extra objects.