Piano for Reason NNXT?

[Markleford]

There is a trick to be able to do it. It doesn't actually have release triggers but it can be done.

So... what's the trick?

(you knew that was coming, right?)

- m

[Meffy]

there was a pretty good SF2 grand Piano on the net called 'Maestro Malmsjo' but I can't find it at the moment.

The Maestro series can be hard to locate. Try this page, generously provided by the good folks at GSonic:

http://www.gsonic.com/maestro/

Also from the talented Mats Helgesson -- drum soundfonts that include "incidental noises," the natural sounds made by a drummer that aren't part of the drum part as such but add a note of authenticity (simulated, heh). Think of them as like fret noise on a guitar soundfont, or swash letters in a text font, and you've got the right idea. :-)

Meffy

[defjamm]

On the cheaper side there are some
However, if you really want one refill dedicated to an amazing piano we are about to release a 200 meg C7 grand that is fantastic. M-Audio has been showing it secretly since Frankfurt Musik Messe and the response has been great. They're showing it as the optimal piano sound to go along with their new 88 weighted controller.

The other one I mentioned is part of a high end line dedicated to one stellar instrument with multiple articulations and will have a street price of less than a hundred bucks... probably around $79.

when will it be released? one more question, i love reason but there aren't many high quality refills, even the commercial ones lack quality. what other instruments will be in this high end line? i would be happy to see really great stings, bass, woodwinds, brass and guitar refills. oh yeah, your sonic refill is one of the best refills i own(and i own many refills from zero-g to amg). will there be a sonic refill part 2? can't wait for that one.

This line of high end (yet still low price) libraries for Reason is really cool. It is like turning Reason's NNXT into a virtual instrument dedicated to one great thing at a time. I don't want to spill the beans too much because M-Audio is going to make an announcement next week at Summer NAMM. But, I will tell you that this line does include a full high end orchestra (so like GPO for Reason... but different samples of course). It does include a couple for guitars, a bunch for drum kits that are very real sounding and more. They are less than a hundred dollars each but high-end like Giga libraries that cost many times more. They are 100-250+ meg sized instruments though so it is more for people that use Reason to track to other systems with Rewire or for live use (or for people with a lot of ram because Reason doesn't stream).

Also being released are 5 new Sonic Refill titles at $49 ea. I can hint about these too I guess since we're getting close. One is like a mini bass module with acoustic, electric and synth bass. Another is like a virtual guitar module. There's a Mellotron one, a human voice one and one that is like a synth pad module. Good variety like the other 15 volumes, different new sounds and great value for money. They're all done so they'll be ready to ship really soon.

That grand piano refill is done. So, hopefully it will be released soon. Anyone can feel free to bug M-Audio about wanting it soon. I am sure they like to hear the demand there is for such a thing. Reason users NEED some high end sounds for the NNXT. It is capable of some really cool things that other samplers don't do actually. We take full advantage of release triggering, alternating samples, complex layers and many other tricks it can do for expressive sound design.

Oh, sorry. I missed the question about "Sonic Refill part 2". There are more Sonic Refill volumes. Here's how it works. The "Sonic Refill" original box is actually volumes 1-5 that are $49. ea through M-Audio dealers. Then OmniSoundz GM refill is vol.6 Vol. 7-15 are completely different sounds from the original Sonic Refill box so they ARE part 2. In fact, you can even get them in discount packs of three on www.esoundz.com or you can get them cheap ala carte from stores like guitar center, audio midi and other M-Audio dealers world-wide.

The ones I mentioned above are vol. 16-20 + the high end line of at least 10 new refills. That makes 30 refills available from SR. That's some pretty good sound options for Reason users!

thx, that sounds really great, i'm glad to hear that. but i have one more question, i'm from germany and the sonic refill and the omnisoundsrefill can be bought here from m-audio, but i cannot find the other refills(7-15). i would be interested in vol 10, 11, 14 and 15 and the upcoming bass, guitar and synth/pad-modules. will they be released this year?

edit:
http://www.m-audio.de/sonicre.htm

could you talk with m-audio? they have only this 2 in their store for buying

[Jeremy_NSL]

There is a trick to be able to do it. It doesn't actually have release triggers but it can be done.

So... what's the trick?

(you knew that was coming, right?)

- m

I'll answer this one. You need to add the release samples in a new group, each with a loop start AND loop end of 0.0%. Very weird, but it works.

[Markleford]

I'll answer this one. You need to add the release samples in a new group, each with a loop start AND loop end of 0.0%. Very weird, but it works.

Neat! Thanks!

- m

[defjamm]

@squids: one last question, how will the bass-module compare to trilogy from spectrasonics?

[snooky]

There is a nice 130mb piano in a refill called "Wilbe 2003". It isn't multisampled but every note in the entire keyboard is sampled with no loops. Pretty nice. Also there is a great harpsichord, psalterium, and especially an awesome harp in the same refill. Worth getting.

from where?
is it free...

[Jeremy_NSL]

Sorry, I misspelled it. Its "Willbe", probably why you couldn't find it. Also I made a mistake in the first post - the piano is obviously multisampled, but not velocity-layered.

Its here, and yes its free. One of the highest quality free refills around, imo.

http://willbe.planet-d.net/willbe_refill_2003.htm

[Squids]

Some answers....

You can always get all/any of the Sonic Refill vol. 1-15 on www.esoundz.com internationally.

M-Audio should have them world-wide. I will say something although I just saw at Frankfurt Musik Messe that they had them so... I don't know why it isn't up there. Also their price on OmniSoundz on that page is wrong. We dropped the price in half. Nice looking page though.

The bass refill coming out is in some ways like a poor man's Trilogy for Reason. Although only in the sense that it is acoustic, electric and synth basses in one package. If you want good bass sounds for Reason then this is a choice selection.

Also, here are some recomendations. Some of the Sonic Refill volumes are good meat & potatoes and some are really outstanding in what they have for the money. Here are the titles that for what they are can be considered "must-have".

Sonic Refill (1-5 in one- best together than separated)

Reality Drums
Monster Drums
Instruments of the 60's & 70's
Acoustic Folk
Ethnic Instruments
World Percussion

OmniSoundz is good for all around variety of meat & potatoes instruments for the money (and it is 49 not 99 now).

The other Sonic Refill volumes are good too but they are more like "yeah I can use that" as opposed to being impressive like libraries that cost 5x the price. The 5 new volumes are this way as well. The Bass and Guitar refills are stellar collections. The new synth one is like a mini dream synth module for Reason, the vocal textures is like a $400 vocal library for fifty bucks and the Mellotron library is a pretty cheap way to get Mellotron, Chamberlin and other tron sounds... if you use Reason.

Markleford, I was going to tell you guys the trick but someone beat me to it. That's it though. Set the mode to LP-Sus and loop "nothing" and you're good to go on release triggering.

[snooky]

Speaking of soundfonts...what would you consider to be the best FREE "strings" soundfont/s