Name me the people in the music industry who actually cared for it and made a changed in it.

[Aloysius]

xoxos

[jancivil]

My remarks are kind of 'global' vs local, not to discourage anyone from making their own corner of the universe more tolerable, I as an old person have a rather tempered idealism.

[Vortifex]

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[dark water]

OP: Sorry to be cynical, but I don't think you'll get a proper answer to this. Aside from anything, the music industry is an INDUSTRY which relies upon making money - and arguably it has a considerable amount of shit and corruption attached to that.

However, as an interesting sidenote, I give you the KLF.
They played the cynical industry at its own game: they were HUGELY successful for a few years, they wrote a tongue-in-cheek guide, 'The 'Manual', about how to have a Number One (and a different band actually achieved this through directly following the book's 'advice'), and they later burnt nearly all their earnings (about £1 million up to that point) on video as a statement of some sort of other...

Everything doesn't have to be about money! Money is a fakery object that hides peoples real personality and forces them to do something they don't want to do since they are terrible at doing other things in their life but comes to this industry to do something since it's "Easy" to get into this. I don't care about earnings to be honest I only care about if you are a real reality person for the compassion for music and the people who listen to it.

Oh, I could have fun with this answer!

Suffice to say that I admire your idealistic stance on the issue, but yes sadly the industry of music is about making money.

Also, money in itself is not the problem. To illustrate this: would you prefer to live with NO money for your entire life?

Moreove, it is (some) people's greedy and selfish pursuit of it which causes problems.
And no, there are many things which don't involve money: love, humour, posting at KVR...
But the music industry involves money: it is an industry which aims to make money.

Therefore I don't see any possible other answers to the exact question you asked in the OP specifically about the INDUSTRY of music.

[Jace-BeOS]

Trent Reznor tried, but cheapass behavior of most consumers (not all), and the greed and arrogance of the industry establishment, maintained its course regardless.

He stopped doing business through the "record companies" for a while and tried dealing directly with the consumer. It didn't work out as well as he hoped. Ultimately, he went back to using the industry to a certain extent.

In fact, giving away music with the option of supporting the artists (Saul Williams' "Niggy Tardust" album Trent worked on) was a depressing "proof by numbers" that consumers who claimed to want to support artists weren't the majority.

Some info on the above: http://www.brooklynvegan.com/trent-reznor-en/

Trent also fought the labels and their overcharging of their customers:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IFXivarypE4

[Numanoid]

Bob Geldof + Midge Ure = Band Aid

Michael Jackson + Quincy Jones = USA for Africa

[AnX]

Sid Vicious..
.

He donated all his money to drug dealers, so they could live better lives.

[Numanoid]

Animal rights backers like:

Morrissey (Smiths) = Meat is Murder

Howard Jones = Assault and Battery

[Daags]

Karlheinz Brandenburg ... and then Tomislav Uzelac .... followed by Sean Parker, Shawn Fanning, John Fanning.

/thread


PS: don't whinge to me about multi-millionaire cry babys like trent reznor, and radiohead, who concocted these short lived and ultra phoney 'donate what you like' promotions.

[Daags]

I give you the KLF.
.........<snip>........ and they later burnt nearly all their earnings (about £1 million up to that point) on video as a statement of some sort of other...

those utter bell-ends. it wasn't smart, it wasn't clever. and btw, they thought they'd make the money back by swanning around galleries and culutural centres exhibiting the ashes, video ...and, lol, by giving talks.

[dark water]

I give you the KLF.
.........<snip>........ and they later burnt nearly all their earnings (about £1 million up to that point) on video as a statement of some sort of other...

those utter bell-ends. it wasn't smart, it wasn't clever. and btw, they thought they'd make the money back by swanning around galleries and culutural centres exhibiting the ashes, video ...and, lol, by giving talks.

Indeed!
Perhaps in hindsight they feel a tad bellendish...

[Numanoid]

they thought they'd make the money back by swanning around galleries and culutural centres exhibiting the ashes

No IMO, I think Jimi Cauty was deeply plagued by that action.

Such an idiotic move by Bill Drummond, burn a million quid, you aint gonna affect anything, the British mint just print up a replacement million quid the next day.

[dark water]

True.
I suspect (one of) the main reasons involved narcotics rather than some arty symbolic bollocks.

On the flip side, Cauty has done okay (not least as one member of the Orb: nice recent album COW too).

Muppets!

[Daags]

they thought they'd make the money back by swanning around galleries and culutural centres exhibiting the ashes

No IMO, I think Jimi Cauty was deeply plagued by that action.

the two things aren't mutually exclusive. you can believe one thing before you do something stupid, and then completely change your mind after it is done. in part because of the action itself, but in larger part because the fantasy you thought would happen after you did the stupid thing never came to fruition. either way, what they thought before the act is not changed by what they felt after.

So take your NO and ram it up your poopchute

[Numanoid]

I suspect (one of) the main reasons involved narcotics rather than some arty symbolic bollocks.!

To me it is catch 22

If they felt their output which had brough in the money was just wishy-washy dance tracks. Why make a fuzz about burning the money? Burn it in silence instead of inviting all that media to cover the burning.