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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Zexila wrote:Logic or Cubase.
Unless you're on a pc ;)
You can't use Cubase on a 'pc'? What is that, it sounds horrible.

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jancivil wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Zexila wrote:Logic or Cubase.
Unless you're on a pc ;)
You can't use Cubase on a 'pc'? What is that, it sounds horrible.
Just riffin' off of Googly's comment. Of course, I am referring to Logic not being pc can't compatible.

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I think the best advice for the OP would be to demo some hosts, and see what suits him the best. I mean, rather than proposing random DAW's.

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chk071 wrote:I think the best advice for the OP would be to demo some hosts, and see what suits him the best. I mean, rather than proposing random DAW's.
Personally didn't recommend random DAW's, but two I really think would serve him the best for the kind of work he wants to do with them on long run.

Studio One vs Live, Bitwig than. :tu:
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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jancivil wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Zexila wrote:Logic or Cubase.
Unless you're on a pc ;)
You can't use Cubase on a 'pc'? What is that, it sounds horrible.
Can't use it on AMD PC that's for sure. just wrapped up building an R7 and Cubase runs like it was a Core Duo. :x

Meanwhile, Reaper and PT run like a charm...

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Demo each and see which one was easier to get from idea to final product.
...and the electron responded, "what wall?"

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Because of low price, super friendly copy protection, ability to run portably, flexibility, and fast loading, I think that Reaper is hands down the best "second" DAW for almost everybody, no matter what your DAW of choice is. Even though I use other DAWs, I still prefer Reaper for quick testing of plugins, integrating multiple programs for live jamming, e.g., making use of the rearoute driver on Windows, and most of my mixing and mastering. It's not always the best DAW for me for the creative aspects though. A good friend does all of his house (music) production in Reaper, so it's certainly possible and you may like it just fine.

So, that said, just get Reaper and use it. It's like the swiss army knife of DAWs and in six months when you've had your fill of whatever it's shortcomings are FOR YOU, you can ask again and say "I hate this and I hate that, which DAW does a better job at those things?"

In fact, you can download and use it for a month with no risk to losing your projects in it ever. I'd start there. If after a month you aren't feeling it for $60, you'll have learned more about what you like and don't like.

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When you demo these DAWs demo Ableton first. It will save you a lot of time. I spent a month on Cubase, found it simply unusable for electronic, workflow worse than protools. So that was a month down the toilet. :cry:

Everyone's got a different opinion but for different reasons. Maybe their style of music suits Reaper or Cubase or whatever but if you're doing loop music which is what nu-disco and the like is then Ableton. Nu-disco tends to do a lot of re-sampling for example and Ableton is designed for that sort of thing. The others on the market were originally designed to do simple recordings and they added all the other stuff to tailor to electronic after (music has changed since 1993). This unfortunately made them cluttered, taking longer to do simple tasks. Cubase is probably the best example of this. Protools on the other hand didn't try as hard to make that transition, aware of their foothold on the recording studio market.

This is my philosophy on DAWs. The speed of the music must match the speed in which you create the music. Now you mentioned film, orchestral. Well film has as much electronic influence as anything else. It's all about movement, tension and builds however if you're doing it professionally you need Protools because of it's video integration.

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ghettosynth wrote:Because of low price, super friendly copy protection, ability to run portably, flexibility, and fast loading, I think that Reaper is hands down the best "second" DAW for almost everybody, no matter what your DAW of choice is. Even though I use other DAWs, I still prefer Reaper for quick testing of plugins, integrating multiple programs for live jamming, e.g., making use of the rearoute driver on Windows, and most of my mixing and mastering. It's not always the best DAW for me for the creative aspects though. A good friend does all of his house (music) production in Reaper, so it's certainly possible and you may like it just fine.

So, that said, just get Reaper and use it. It's like the swiss army knife of DAWs and in six months when you've had your fill of whatever it's shortcomings are FOR YOU, you can ask again and say "I hate this and I hate that, which DAW does a better job at those things?"

In fact, you can download and use it for a month with no risk to losing your projects in it ever. I'd start there. If after a month you aren't feeling it for $60, you'll have learned more about what you like and don't like.
Good advice.

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+ 1 for reaper.
don't be put off at it's depth.
Reaper for just a few reasons,
good stable builds on a very frequent basis.
a great user base community and help.
extensible in as many ways as you wish to go like the SWS extensions are amazing.
totally customizable interface and shortcut keys..
a 60 day no limit demo
only £60 for a full version.
'sandbox' 3rd party plugins...
and loads of other stuff....
try it out..

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RobDelve wrote:Hello All,
i want to start produce music, i like Funky Nu Disco.
And some time i like to do make music for movies, like Orchestral.
I will using only VSTs,and maybe some time will use real guitar that all of hardwares i want using only MIDI.

I think about Studio One 3 or Ableton?

What will be the good choose? Thank you : )
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seems like i may have triggered some kids

leaving the above troll part
for midi i felt FL and Reaper were good when compared to ableton
i know ableton has many midi tools but if you are good at writing JS program you can make your very own midi tools and JS is kinda easy even i can use it

pro tip
if you take reaper as your choice and love ableton's style of single screen workflow
dock the file and vst explorer to any one side
and change the midi editor and fx chain properties in the preference section under midi editor tab to
auto-dock in same window option
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yes i am a reaper fag..........
REAPER, Phase Plant , Unfiltered Audio TRIAD and LION, NI classic collection,......... ETC

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Unfortunately you won't find the right DAW for you by asking in forums, there's no shortcut- you simply need to try them to see which is the one for you. Other people can help you narrow down the list, but you'll still end up with a handful. This process takes time and effort, but it's better to spend time demoing in the beginning than host-jumping for the rest of your career. Getting proficient in a DAW is an investment of your time, and time is worth more than anything else. Invest it wisely.

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Possibilities are high that you will end up with DAW that isn't most suitable for the thing you are doing now or will start to suck on long run, because you need it for the two totally different workflow approaches, but it's you in the end of the day, if you find yourself really into orchestral workflow kind of DAW, than it's done, you found the one, but if you go with EDM workflow DAW like Bitwig/Live, they will start showing their weaknesses on long run when you start messing with orchestral thing.

My sincere advice, enjoy in what you are doing today, it's not that hard to learn new DAW when you really know what you want and need, it's really not worth to suffer trough bunch of workflow niggles just because one day that DAW will be great, use your tools to the fullest potential now, than get tools you need for something else tomorrow.

Don't get me wrong, I wish you will find just the perfect tools today that will serve you tomorrow and day after, I really do, but knowing what we have today, yeah, really hope you will be that lucky, many of us weren't.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? :D ShawnG

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Apratim wrote:
RobDelve wrote:Hello All,
i want to start produce music, i like Funky Nu Disco.
And some time i like to do make music for movies, like Orchestral.
I will using only VSTs,and maybe some time will use real guitar that all of hardwares i want using only MIDI.

I think about Studio One 3 or Ableton?

What will be the good choose? Thank you : )
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f**k studio one f**k ableton both are awful get reaper...
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seems like i may have triggered some kids

leaving the above troll part
for midi i felt FL and Reaper were good when compared to ableton
i know ableton has many midi tools but if you are good at writing JS program you can make your very own midi tools and JS is kinda easy even i can use it

pro tip
if you take reaper as your choice and love ableton's style of single screen workflow
dock the file and vst explorer to any one side
and change the midi editor and fx chain properties in the preference section under midi editor tab to
auto-dock in same window option
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.
.
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yes i am a reaper fag..........
Congratulations. Pointless post of the week award goes to you. :clap:

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Kinh wrote: Congratulations. Pointless post of the week award goes to you. :clap:
thank you
thank you very much..................... : :?:
REAPER, Phase Plant , Unfiltered Audio TRIAD and LION, NI classic collection,......... ETC

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