KVR Audio

Lazlo Minimart · Post by **Lazlo Minimart** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:00 pm

The return on investment from a Reaktor purchase is unlike anything I've ever encountered in the software world. The thing just keeps getting bigger, more diverse, more creative, better sounding, blah blah blah. Every time the user library is updated, it's something new all over again.

For Reaktor alone, they deserve the highest praise.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:03 pm

f**k id forgot about reaktor

but then again aBsynth

Phaedo · Post by **Phaedo** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:04 pm

Absynth sounds amazing. I don't understand it at all, though.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:06 pm

nor me fully yet
but just get inside and play,remember you cant break it

altho keep the speakers down you can however pop them
all too easy

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:29 pm

Phaedo wrote:Absynth sounds amazing. I don't understand it at all, though.

it's just like any other synth..
it's actually surprisingly easy to program if you spend some time in it

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:33 pm

vurt wrote:nor me fully yet
but just get inside and play,remember you cant break it

vurt..

can you have a lok at that preset I send you? add an envelope (or click on filter 2 freq which is already there) and save, then load the preset again and see if the new envelope has been saved too?

I was a bit tired (and stoned) yesterday and I'm wondering if I did anything wrong.. those damn envelopes kept disappearing

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:36 pm

youve sent me something?
i havent recieved anything

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:40 pm

I've had good to excellent results dealing with NI's support people. B4, Reaktor 4, FM7 -- each is indispensible to me, or nearly so. Top quality stuff there.

That said, some of their products interest me not at all. Battery ain't a patch on DR-008. ^_^ But that's okay, it'd be a shame if one company dominated every niche.

I buy from indies like Camel Audio, big companies like NI and CW, and everything in between... thanks to online reviews and downloadable demos, it's very rare that a program displeases me after buying, whether it's from a big or little maker.

Variety! Huzzah!

Meffy

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:49 pm

vurt wrote:youve sent me something?
i havent recieved anything

oh f**k.. what happened there? I PM'd you a link yesterday evening but I just noticed it doesn't show in my sent items. kvr must have cocked up

here goes.. it probably wont sound as intented because of the envelope problem so I'm curious to see if you have the same problem

http://www.meowie.com/kvr/LowGrunge.fxp

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:57 pm

seems ok here
but due to being tired/stoned and not 100% sure yet how to work it i may not have completed the test properly

either way i like it

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:13 pm

vurt wrote: but due to being tired/stoned and not 100% sure yet how to work it i may not have completed the test properly

I'll make a sample when I get home so you can compare (cause it sounds dodgy without the correct envelopes)

SecondSkin · Post by **SecondSkin** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:14 pm

I've had nothing but good dealings with NI. AFAIK they allow license transfers on all of their products, and handle them admirably. Would that all the devs were so enlightened.

The free upgrade to Reaktor 4 was unexpected and welcome, too.

Thanks NI!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:19 pm

spaceman wrote:
vurt wrote: but due to being tired/stoned and not 100% sure yet how to work it i may not have completed the test properly

I'll make a sample when I get home so you can compare (cause it sounds dodgy without the correct envelopes)

dodgy or different?
suppose its a point of view thing

like i said i like it but like i aalso said somewhere else yes more patches please and more and more.
some nice spacey ambient pads n sounds might help too
ive been commisioned to do a 3 hour piece of music

for a school space project(my sons school)so any new inspirational sounds would be cool

that goes for anyone

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:20 pm

spaceman wrote:
Phaedo wrote:Absynth sounds amazing. I don't understand it at all, though.
it's just like any other synth..
it's actually surprisingly easy to program if you spend some time in it

This might seem like nitpicking, but actually it is not just like any other synth, and that's what makes it take some time to get into even for experienced sound programmers:
There is a fundamental difference in how modulations are handled. On about every other synth a modulation either adds/subtracts to/from a value, while in Absynth a modulation scales the value. This means that you set the actual maximum modulation amount by the parameter itself, and not by the modulation amount. A completely different concept.

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:27 pm

i originally ordered fm7 from floridamusic.com. the packaging lacked a serial number for sound voulme 1. florida music referred me to NI support line in California.

after reading the comments on kvr about NI, I was concerned that I'd never get that disk loaded. When I called I got a voice mail box. I left my number and thought here we go, 'They won't call'. They called about half hour later and created a serial number for me.
The only thing I didn't like was the space music on hold sounded terrible through the phone.

and that's how I qualified for Komplete 2 and that's turned out to be way beyond my expectations.

Some praise for Native instruments...