Waves F6

[J4R1O]

Waves just updated this and added a new spectrum analyzer. Can I get a "bout time"?

I just updated but no spectrum analyzer here... :/

Is this the latest version after the update?: 9.92.50.38 Build E 134832

[soulone82]

bout time

[Reefius]

Waves just updated this and added a new spectrum analyzer. Can I get a "bout time"?

I just updated but no spectrum analyzer here... :/

Is this the latest version after the update?: 9.92.50.38 Build E 134832

It's a separate plugin named F6-RTA.

[J4R1O]

Waves just updated this and added a new spectrum analyzer. Can I get a "bout time"?

I just updated but no spectrum analyzer here... :/

Is this the latest version after the update?: 9.92.50.38 Build E 134832

It's a separate plugin named F6-RTA.

Found it! Thanks!

[gas pump]

Waves just updated this and added a new spectrum analyzer. Can I get a "bout time"?

No, but you can always count on the complaint department here.

I really don't see the need for an analyzer anyway, all it does is keeps you from learning how to properly use your ears and focus on the feeling. I would never make any EQ moves based only by what I see. I'm just glad they also added an on/off button, which is also great for saving CPU.

But, for beginners, those too lazy to develop proper ear training and people with hearing disabilities, it has it's uses.

And yes, it's a free update to everyone that owns F6 v9.xx

[MogwaiBoy]

I really don't see the need for an analyzer anyway, all it does is keeps you from learning how to properly use your ears and focus on the feeling.

But, for beginners, those too lazy to develop proper ear training and people with hearing disabilities, it has it's uses.

That's a little snobbish and arrogant sounding but whatever. For EQs modelled on hardware, sure - use your ears. Dynamic EQs are different though - it's nice to visually judge how much signal is being cut, precisely where and how the dynamic is responding (attack/release).

If you want to go Zen, as you say, you can still turn it off. Doesn't make you better than anyone else though.

[Caine123]

Hmmm now it is interesting but purchased surfer eq2 and trackspacer in the time. Would it be still a complementory eq?

[dreamvoid]

I would never make any EQ moves based only by what I see. I'm just glad they also added an on/off button, which is also great for saving CPU.

But, for beginners, those too lazy to develop proper ear training and people with hearing disabilities, it has it's uses.

What a nonsense. People like me even buy analysers with spectrum display for constant quality control. What you cannot hear, even with super human hearing, is what's going on outside you monitoring and level ranges. Furthermore, the longer you work, the more listening fatique you get. A spectrum anaylser helps you to get an overview and a quick first impression of resonances, peaks, dips and alike. In the contrary to what you said, spectrum analysers are underrated. You just have to learn to use and utilize them. You could reject dynamic meters and other studio measurement necessities (phase control) with the same arguments. It is more work to use an analyser for double checking - layziness is on the side of the people not using them.

[gas pump]

I really don't see the need for an analyzer anyway, all it does is keeps you from learning how to properly use your ears and focus on the feeling.

But, for beginners, those too lazy to develop proper ear training and people with hearing disabilities, it has it's uses.

That's a little snobbish and arrogant sounding but whatever. For EQs modelled on hardware, sure - use your ears. Dynamic EQs are different though - it's nice to visually judge how much signal is being cut, precisely where and how the dynamic is responding (attack/release).

If you want to go Zen, as you say, you can still turn it off. Doesn't make you better than anyone else though.

Sometimes the cold hard facts of reality stings a bit. Just like the fact that you and anyone else trying to make a living in the music business is about less then a 1% chance. So I would suggest that people get off their lazy asses and try beating out the competition or continue a life of excuses and regrets.

The legends and the masters don't sit around all day analyzing their music with visual aides, they make music with their experienced ears and sought after taste and feel for music. They are all very musically inclined and trained, while most of them play real instruments. I'm not sure if you've noticed that a great musician still sounds great on an cheap instrument. Don't be one of those people that can't even play a cheap instrument.

If your goal is to click around on a pianoroll and throw together some melodies over some random chords you stumbled upon, go for it. There are millions of those type of "musicians", but society wants the ones that have something more to give. Like real songs with feeling and emotion captured through sound and feeling. Just ask Stevie Wonder, one of the best.

[gas pump]

I would never make any EQ moves based only by what I see. I'm just glad they also added an on/off button, which is also great for saving CPU.

But, for beginners, those too lazy to develop proper ear training and people with hearing disabilities, it has it's uses.

What a nonsense. People like me even buy analysers with spectrum display for constant quality control. What you cannot hear, even with super human hearing, is what's going on outside you monitoring and level ranges. Furthermore, the longer you work, the more listening fatique you get. A spectrum anaylser helps you to get an overview and a quick first impression of resonances, peaks, dips and alike. In the contrary to what you said, spectrum analysers are underrated. You just have to learn to use and utilize them. You could reject dynamic meters and other studio measurement necessities (phase control) with the same arguments. It is more work to use an analyser for double checking - layziness is on the side of the people not using them.

Your brain and eyes can all play tricks on you, especially when you're dealing with audio. I'm not going to get all scientific on you, but you've got a lot to learn about human emotion and reaction through their senses. Something can look perfect, but it may not sound that way. I suggest you take a step back from your visual aides and crutches, and you will find out how useless you would be on an analog console.

[dreamvoid]

Your brain and eyes can all play tricks on you, especially when you're dealing with audio. I'm not going to get all scientific on you, but you've got a lot to learn about human emotion and reaction through their senses. Something can look perfect, but it may not sound that way. I suggest you take step away from your aide and crutch, and you will find out how useless you would be on an analog console.

Really, who do you think you are trying to patronize others who you don't know? I have a long record of compositions and productions for TV, radio, promotions etc. My works got international awards for broadcast and classic productions. I had analog consoles, ditched them for digital ones. I was one of the first in Europe who had DMC1000 desks in his studio (at the the same time as Trevor Horn). Some of the recent commercial productions I did were composing and producing for premium camera maker Leica (with Marilyn Manson appearing) and mixing for Sennheisers global spots introducing an Ambeo device. For all this I used analysers in several stages of production as usual. I understand to use my eyes, brain, ears, emotions and all that. That brought me to the conclusion analysers are very valuable tools, like dynamic meters, phase correlators, bit meters etc.

[MFXxx]

Touché

Your brain and eyes can all play tricks on you, especially when you're dealing with audio. I'm not going to get all scientific on you, but you've got a lot to learn about human emotion and reaction through their senses. Something can look perfect, but it may not sound that way. I suggest you take step away from your aide and crutch, and you will find out how useless you would be on an analog console.

Really, who do you think you are trying to patronize others who you don't know? I have a long record of compositions and productions for TV, radio, promotions etc. My works got international awards for broadcast and classic productions. I had analog consoles, ditched them for digital ones. I was one of the first in Europe who had DMC1000 desks in his studio (at the the same time as Trevor Horn). Some of the recent commercial productions I did were composing and producing for premium camera maker Leica (with Marilyn Manson appearing) and mixing for Sennheisers global spots introducing an Ambeo device. For all this I used analysers in several stages of production as usual. I understand to use my eyes, brain, ears, emotions and all that. That brought me to the conclusion analysers are very valuable tools, like dynamic meters, phase correlators, bit meters etc.

[MogwaiBoy]

Just like the fact that you and anyone else trying to make a living in the music business is about less then a 1% chance.

Thanks, coach

Actually I have a solid 9-5 dayjob with 15 years experience that pays the bills and have never dreamed of making of living off music - infact I don't think I would want to even if the opportunity arose - too risky for my family, I prefer the regular paychecks. The money it (music) generates is on the side and fed straight back into it. Music is an expression and outlet for me - not a financial goal. Oh and I purposely set out to not make uber-commercial music. None of this any of us needs to prove to you.

Try humbling yourself a little more and you might find interactions with other people will be less confrontational. Unless you have the accolades to back up that Kanye-sized ego.

[zvenx]

I wonder if this was the reaction by people who had gotten accustomed to calculating by pen and paper and along came those darn pocket calculators.. I wonder if you have issue with clip guitar tuners.. I am clearly not going to use my eyes alone and not my ears, but if the spectrum analyzer helps get me there quicker, to argue in 2018 that it isn't a plus is well...... Rsp

[v1o]

Anybody compared this to EQ4 yet?