MeldaProduction are NOT going to stop supporting OSX platform.

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This says it all right here. If you don't understand from this why we were bothered by this communication then there isn't really a discussion to be had.

It's not about "Which OS is better...", it's about the attitude of making your problems our problems and insulting us in the process.
HobbyCore wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:35 pm The article is about your problems though, not the user's problems.

The entire premise of the article is that things are hard for you, so the users should endure a painful switch so that you possibly can have an easier time.

There's also clearly a strong anti-Apple bias given that nowhere in the article does it say "You can just use Bootcamp on your mac while you get used to things". More than half the article is about buying a new non-Apple computer.
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Not insulting... sure.

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evo2slo wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:38 pm Switching to a PC would be a lot more hassle for me than just not using Melda plugins anymore. Every other developer email said they would be Catalina ready as soon as possible but recommend waiting to upgrade... only Melda suggested switching operating systems as the solution. I have unsubscribed from future emails and will no longer buy any Melda plugins, as I have lost confidence in their willingness to adapt to change.
I think this is unreasonable. Vojtech has expressed strong opinions about technology and software ecosystems in the past. This is not new at all.

The real issue is that apparently whoever wrote this article thinks switching platforms is nothing more than a matter of buying some new hardware and knowing what the start button is. This incredible simplification of professional needs is the worrying part.

I can't fathom how someone that produces products for this market thinks that switching platforms is 'that easy', or that the solution is passing their development problems onto their users.

(Not to mention the factual/technical errors in the article both about Windows, macOS and hardware.)

I sincerely hope this was the rogue effort of an intern that's just learning about how people use their computers. :dog:

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HobbyCore wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:50 pm I can't fathom how someone that produces products for this market thinks that switching platforms is 'that easy', or that the solution is passing their development problems onto their users.
Actually in my opinion it is easy. I'm using both after all. In any case, the article is about the possibility.
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MeldaProduction wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 pm
HobbyCore wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:50 pm I can't fathom how someone that produces products for this market thinks that switching platforms is 'that easy', or that the solution is passing their development problems onto their users.
Actually in my opinion it is easy. I'm using both after all. In any case, the article is about the possibility.
Unfortunately your opinion only is valid based on your atypical use of the platforms. I'm sure that we can both agree that your use is atypical compared to your customers, yes?

If this was posted on some personal blog as an opinion piece about how easy it was for you to switch to Windows from macOS, then nobody would be bothered.

Instead, you/your company decided to e-mail all of your available (subscribing) customers based on your own personal experiences rather than an objective assessment of tradeoffs. You rationalized this solely based upon your own problems and annoyances with Apple.

I doubt I can convince you that what was done is wrong, but I hope you understand that you've insulted a portion of your userbase, both Windows and macOS users by making some massive assumptions and writing a snide piece to satisfy your own fleeting frustrations.

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MeldaProduction wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:09 pmActually it's like 30% in audio industry, mostly because of the past. But you know how it is... past sticks to the future...
30% of the audio industry or 30% of the Melda Production users?

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Logic / Melda User here

sounds like you're going to abandon the Apple platform.So I won't buy any Melda products anymore...
After Catarina there will be a next update and in 2 years another one ....will the the products be unusable for Mac users ?

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hansmai wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:18 pm Logic / Melda User here

sounds like you're going to abandon the Apple platform.So I won't buy any Melda products anymore...
After Catarina there will be a next update and in 2 years another one ....will the the products be unusable for Mac users ?
We are certainly going to support OSX. But it doesn't change the fact, that things like Catalina shouldn't happen. At some point Apple may release such an update, that it will be impossible to make it work, nobody knows. With now ProTools 10 users will take the hit. Who knows who will be next...
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" Who knows who will be next..."
So it's not future proved for logic users...oh dear!

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MeldaProduction wrote:Over the years, many users of non-trivial applications have reported compatibility problems in OSX ... This may be a good time to review your options and consider switching to a different platform.... If you are satisfied with your Apple platform, please stop reading now.... This article is only for those thinking about a change....
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Apple has made a move that is screwing over the plug-in industry in the short term. Will the long term be worth it? Maybe? Some have suggested it will put an end to cracked plugins (really?). That would be nice for developers. But I understand that the amount of time developers might have to commit to this now, with no compensation, is awful--and what if it doesn't stop people from cracking plugins?
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apple has always screwed over devs in some way. stuff breaks w/new apple OS. it takes more to maintain apple products or perhaps devs complain about the apple side of their products more.. the move form PPC to intel.. OS9 to 10 then all the iterations of 10 that shake and bake all kinds back end stuff.. the app store, .. what else? AU vs VST.. and on and on. i'm still using macs and holding on w/claws to my older laptop and desktop systems. one running high sierra as most recent OS it will support (no metal) and one running mojave which is where that one will stay for as long as possible.

apple apparently put the writing on the wall about a move to different chips... sometime down the road.. sooner.. maybe later.. but the ARM based systems seem to be what apple is aiming at.

some devs already prepping for this.

if i had to buy a new computer tomorrow i don't know what i'd do. maybe a used apple laptop from ipowerresale or something. though perhaps building a desktop windows machine would be the way to go. so much more bang for the buck.

so, a developer throwing out there "hey maybe look at a windows system" is not such a big deal. i think a lot of people are thinking about it. but i also agree i think the catalina hysteria to be ratcheted up a bit. though i know it's a pain in the ass for a developer that has 75 plug ins or whatever.. there's a lot of work to do there.

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topaz wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:17 pm Question

What happens to the terabytes of data on journaled drives if I hypothetically switched to windows ?

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I am not sure if the email was offensive, but it was unnecessary. I personally found it annoying. I use Apple products primarily because they provide an extremely consistent user experience across heterogeneous devices. The idea that I would change every single technological workflow in my professional and personal life just because a developer of audio plugin for which there are literally hundreds of alternatives feels that I should is fairly delusional.
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Btw, Vojtech, I would appreciate it if you would waive transfer fees for a while. I am sitting on quite a few Melda licenses that have sort of become obsolete for me now. There might be others who feel the same.
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I think that Melda has very understandable reasons to dislike apple and all the bad moves from apple, basically apple think that can do everything as long as some users blindly are willing to accept all what they want.

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