KVR Audio

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:32 am

pdxindy wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:42 am
machinesworking wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:02 pm
m43lstr0m wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm Bitwig Studio 3 is the DAW that just gives and gives.

Crazy how Ableton 10 and Logic Pro are still the most popular, where from my angle it's always Bitwig, Studio One, and FL Studio making all the big moves with each update.
You must not own Logic then.
Logic 10.5 was an amazing and truly immense update. It took 10-15 minutes just to read through the changelog. It also doesn't count in a way cause Apple can easily put serious development resources into it and year after year not charge for it. Logic's future looks bright.

I'm glad to have both Bitwig and Logic. They each do stuff the other cannot.

Yeah, for sure I feel much better giving Bitwig my cold hard earned cash, it's just weird to deny that Logic isn't one of the most frequently updated DAWs out there, pretty much the only other DAW that comes close is Cubase. everyone else is playing catch up, (barring completely unique features that the others don't really do right, which Bitwig does a lot of).

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:36 am

SLiC wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:46 am
machinesworking wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:02 pm
m43lstr0m wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm Bitwig Studio 3 is the DAW that just gives and gives.

Crazy how Ableton 10 and Logic Pro are still the most popular, where from my angle it's always Bitwig, Studio One, and FL Studio making all the big moves with each update.
You must not own Logic then.
Unfortunately you can on.y own Logic if you run a Mac, Bitwig runs on Mac, PC and Linux so is cross platform.

For sure, and honestly I own it, and use Bitwig and DP10 a lot more than it. I'm slowly easing back into it, (maybe), but I cannot deny it's upgrade cycle. Bitwig, if it ever gets the collaboration feature will become a defacto DAW for this modern time, because it's multi platform.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:45 am

The collaboration feature is definitely coming...I suspect it will be the 'headline' feature of V 3.5 or 4 (which I suspect will be the next release early in the new year)

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:57 am

machinesworking wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:36 am...Bitwig, if it ever gets the collaboration feature will become a defacto DAW for this modern time, because it's multi platform.

I just migrated last night to Linux and it's f**ing liberating - much less DAWs to choose from, much less native plugins, much less distractions. Learn what you already have time! I know normal people can "will" themselves through this "option paralysis" thing, but I have to impose real, physical restrictions on myself

Now I only need to decide which forums to leave... And which DAWs and plugins to sell...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:00 am

antic604 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:57 am Now I only need to decide which forums to leave...

Well, I see you regularly on the Live forum, Gearslutz, MPC Forum...

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:07 am

Then its easy, leave the Live forum - Live doesn't run on Linux. Max/MSP is almost the only reason I stick with a Mac...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:11 am

Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:07 amThen its easy, leave the Live forum - Live doesn't run on Linux. Max/MSP is almost the only reason I stick with a Mac...

I've an account there, but I very very rarely go there. I've to choose 1 or max 2 from: KvR, Gearslutz, MPC Forums, Reasontalk, Discord

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:14 am

1? KVR what else to expect as answer here? Discord may be as 2nd...

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:19 am

m43lstr0m wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm Bitwig Studio 3 is the DAW that just gives and gives.

Crazy how Ableton 10 and Logic Pro are still the most popular, where from my angle it's always Bitwig, Studio One, and FL Studio making all the big moves with each update.

If any DAW keeps on giving and deserves every bit of fame, it's Logic X for last 7 years of free updates, just look at 10.5 change log, sure, others are making big moves, but most are catching up and than they get left far behind as soon as some of their features get implemented in competition.

Depends on demographic you look at, FL is far more popular in bigger hobbyist/bedroom market than Live and Logic, where in smaller pro market where Mac, dongle and price aren't big deal or deal breakers, Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic and etc. are still the established standards.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:36 am

Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:14 am 1? KVR what else to expect as answer here? Discord may be as 2nd...

Yes, Kvr indeed covers most of the bases

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:01 pm

Great update. I should really start getting more familiar with Bitwg (I have a 8-track license I got from Beat magazine), or at least make some headway recreating all of the custom racks I made for my favourite third party plugins, so that if/when Live 11 drops in a couple of years and it leaves me feeling wanting, it won't be so painful to make the jump.

SonikHorizon · Post by **SonikHorizon** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:12 pm

Anyone else having issues with metering? Peak levels shown in the mixer are wrong. Far too low. With the same project in 3.2.8 my kick track showing -10db , in 3.3 beta it shows -20db (also on Master bus)... Same meter mode (peak). My Fabfilter Pro-L limiter plugin on the master bus does show the right level...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:41 pm

Passing Bye wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:19 am
m43lstr0m wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm Bitwig Studio 3 is the DAW that just gives and gives.

Crazy how Ableton 10 and Logic Pro are still the most popular, where from my angle it's always Bitwig, Studio One, and FL Studio making all the big moves with each update.
If any DAW keeps on giving and deserves every bit of fame, it's Logic X for last 7 years of free updates, just look at 10.5 change log, sure, others are making big moves, but most are catching up and than they get left far behind as soon as some of their features get implemented in competition.

Depends on demographic you look at, FL is far more popular in bigger hobbyist/bedroom market than Live and Logic, where in smaller pro market where Mac, dongle and price aren't big deal or deal breakers, Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic and etc. are still the established standards.

All the DAWS you mention are great and if you have a Mac Logic looks like a great DAW, but there is something fun about supporting and following the journey of the 'small developers' like Bitwig who often think a bit more left field. I like using Bitwig as it isn't an 'established standard', its something a bit new and although I still use StudioOne a lot as a bread and butter DAW, Bigwig is the one that makes me happy inside

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:57 pm

One of the best updates for any music software in my opinion. I think it’s one of those rare instances where a feature I actually enter (optimizations) happened.

I also really love the Polymer approach - give me the fixed architecture interface I’m familiar with and let me expand it at will. Such a brilliant extension of the modular concept and modularity within Bitwig. And I really appreciate the new vibrato lfo and ramp modulators.

If they implement feedback routing so I have no reason to use Ableton, I’m practically set.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:29 pm

The new Wavetable Osc in Bitwig is putting a smile on my face. Sounds really good, and in the Grid, is highly flexible for modulation!

Bitwig Studio 3.3 announced + beta started