Reason 3?
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
If the the big 3 is midi out, vst, and audio, then I don't want them. I really like using reason as a rewire device, so I don't need those.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
My long-lost brother! *hug*DKeenum wrote:If the the big 3 is midi out, vst, and audio, then I don't want them. I really like using reason as a rewire device, so I don't need those.
Meffy
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
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original flipper original flipper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8999
- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
HI
I have Reason but do not use it a great deal although I have only had it a short time and am making the transition from Logic to a variety of other hosts.
I do feel that people are locked into this never ending spiral of WANT,WANT,WANT!!!
The program was never developed for audio or plug-ins (it was developed as a 'close shop')- look at the trade off, you can create mega racks of samplers, synths and fx with unique routings that would long ago have brought even a G5 to a halt had it been running native plugs on a similar spec machine.
I think the people that use Reason and little else are probably quite happy with it and would probably find these post's quite amusing!
I can't see with Rewire (why does anyone think the props developed this?) why Reason can't continue on its current heading, in fact I imagine that when the next update comes it will be the last for some time and you will probably see the prop's go into a deep 64bit windows development hybernation mode and in late 2006 they will release v4 fully 64bitted up and ready for another half decade of dominence!
As an end piece - why would any company that have a quality product with a massive customer base want to develop their product into an area such as audio or Vst's that would bring so much hassle, major support issues, major updates and bug rewrites so reason can work with other peoples products - I look at this as a realist, sure it would be wonderfull but hell rewire the bugger or bring yer audio in as a sample!
Just My opinion.
Flipper.
I have Reason but do not use it a great deal although I have only had it a short time and am making the transition from Logic to a variety of other hosts.
I do feel that people are locked into this never ending spiral of WANT,WANT,WANT!!!
The program was never developed for audio or plug-ins (it was developed as a 'close shop')- look at the trade off, you can create mega racks of samplers, synths and fx with unique routings that would long ago have brought even a G5 to a halt had it been running native plugs on a similar spec machine.
I think the people that use Reason and little else are probably quite happy with it and would probably find these post's quite amusing!
I can't see with Rewire (why does anyone think the props developed this?) why Reason can't continue on its current heading, in fact I imagine that when the next update comes it will be the last for some time and you will probably see the prop's go into a deep 64bit windows development hybernation mode and in late 2006 they will release v4 fully 64bitted up and ready for another half decade of dominence!
As an end piece - why would any company that have a quality product with a massive customer base want to develop their product into an area such as audio or Vst's that would bring so much hassle, major support issues, major updates and bug rewrites so reason can work with other peoples products - I look at this as a realist, sure it would be wonderfull but hell rewire the bugger or bring yer audio in as a sample!
Just My opinion.
Flipper.
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Reason 3???!! How dare you ask about upcomming products 
? How dare you disrespect the Prop heads like that ? The Props take their time because they're the only company in the whole world that has working software. They're the only perfectionists on earth and they need to take atleast 2 years on each product.
[/sarcastic stupid mode off]
Whatever you do, dont bring up anything about updates on the Propellerhead site. You'll get attacked by all the Prop dick lickers with nonsense statements about how Reason is a "modular synthesizer" or about how Reason is good enough to make music by itself so go make some music and dont expect your software to go anywhere for many many years. And of course the innevitable "your a crack head" comments. I wish they had a registered forum so everybody could stop that.
I hardly touch this 300 dollar piece of incomplete junk. It needs updating.
? How dare you disrespect the Prop heads like that ? The Props take their time because they're the only company in the whole world that has working software. They're the only perfectionists on earth and they need to take atleast 2 years on each product. [/sarcastic stupid mode off]Whatever you do, dont bring up anything about updates on the Propellerhead site. You'll get attacked by all the Prop dick lickers with nonsense statements about how Reason is a "modular synthesizer" or about how Reason is good enough to make music by itself so go make some music and dont expect your software to go anywhere for many many years. And of course the innevitable "your a crack head" comments. I wish they had a registered forum so everybody could stop that.
I hardly touch this 300 dollar piece of incomplete junk. It needs updating.
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theshaggyfreak theshaggyfreak https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35698
- KVRist
- 216 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Centreville, VA
I'm one that agrees that too many software companies end up 'updating' their software with versions that haven't been completely tested. I'd rather wait a few years and have a great product than get a substandard one every year. Reason is a great product, and I've gotten great support from those at Propellerheads. If you don't like it, don't use it. Everyone has their tastes on what products work best for them. There are quite a few companies that don't release info on new products until they are released. So, bashing Props for that isn't really a great argument IMHO.
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from Norway
I've been demoing Reason for ages now. Sometimes I really want it, but then I go have a look at the number of updates or program a patch with one of the synths. That usually puts me off. I'm sure a lot of people is happy with this product as it is, but it does need an update quite badly for me to spend money on it. Before they bring in any new stuff they should update what they already got in there. Just compare subtractor to waspXT in Orion. Mindblowing difference in sound quality, and 10 times easier to get a good patch going. The sampler side of Reason is good, but the synths need to catch up (esp. subtractor).
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- KVRAF
- 1954 posts since 15 Nov, 2003 from London, UK
I can't believe the same bloody stupid arguments are still going round...and round...and round 
People use the software they use becuase they like it, and thats up to them. They don't need to justify it to others. Why everyone feels the need to defend what they do to the death to a bunch of strangers on a forum is beyond me.
And as for VST support. It'll never happen. Anypone with half a brain, including the props themselves, would realise that this would be the first nail in the reason coffin.
It was designed to be a standalone, self-contained system, and thats what it'll always be. Not that i particularly give a shit, i tried it and didn't like it too much.
Just let it be, the props wil lanounce what they want to announce when they're ready. Some people actually seem to think that by moaning here, they'll suddenly go "oh ok then, we'll release an early beta just for you"
Maybe if people want VST support, and other stuff that Reason doesn't have (for a good reason), then they should go buy another host to compliment it. And then shut the f**k up moaning that it doesn't have a kitchen sink and won't do their housework for them.
People use the software they use becuase they like it, and thats up to them. They don't need to justify it to others. Why everyone feels the need to defend what they do to the death to a bunch of strangers on a forum is beyond me.
And as for VST support. It'll never happen. Anypone with half a brain, including the props themselves, would realise that this would be the first nail in the reason coffin.
It was designed to be a standalone, self-contained system, and thats what it'll always be. Not that i particularly give a shit, i tried it and didn't like it too much.
Just let it be, the props wil lanounce what they want to announce when they're ready. Some people actually seem to think that by moaning here, they'll suddenly go "oh ok then, we'll release an early beta just for you"
Maybe if people want VST support, and other stuff that Reason doesn't have (for a good reason), then they should go buy another host to compliment it. And then shut the f**k up moaning that it doesn't have a kitchen sink and won't do their housework for them.
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original flipper original flipper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8999
- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
HI
Well put Q; my sentiments personified but without the need for me to tell people to 'shut the f**k up' - by the way wasn't that a hit in the mid ninties but minus the f**k word?
Flipper.
Well put Q; my sentiments personified but without the need for me to tell people to 'shut the f**k up' - by the way wasn't that a hit in the mid ninties but minus the f**k word?
Flipper.
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- KVRian
- 624 posts since 22 Jan, 2003 from USA
Charlie Clouser only needed "Four Notes" in his demo tune he did for 2.5 and it crushes.Kriminal wrote:Maybe you'll be able to play more than one note in the next update
I used Reason standalone all the time and now with Live4 I use it rewired all the time. Its an incredble rack of gear that may or may not have your ear for everything, but they are all usable. I prefer the Scream4 to any distortion plug out there and the Reverb is awesome with little CPU hit. The NNXT is very powerful and so is the Malstrom. Don't like the Subtractor? Don't use it. Rewire Reason into your favorite Rewire Host and rock on. Have at that Wasp if it floats yer boat.
Reason is made to be used with other things products. Its rewire integration is a great concept and works flawless for me (especially in Live4). Its like it was built in to Live.
Sure, I can't wait for Reason 3 to arrive, but there is so much other stuff out there that I can wait and be content with what I have. I'm always coming up with new ways to use its routing.
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- KVRAF
- 1954 posts since 15 Nov, 2003 from London, UK
Thats the lad, being excited about updates etc, but makig the best of what you have and finding new ways to use it.drez wrote:Charlie Clouser only needed "Four Notes" in his demo tune he did for 2.5 and it crushes.Kriminal wrote:Maybe you'll be able to play more than one note in the next update
I used Reason standalone all the time and now with Live4 I use it rewired all the time. Its an incredble rack of gear that may or may not have your ear for everything, but they are all usable. I prefer the Scream4 to any distortion plug out there and the Reverb is awesome with little CPU hit. The NNXT is very powerful and so is the Malstrom. Don't like the Subtractor? Don't use it. Rewire Reason into your favorite Rewire Host and rock on. Have at that Wasp if it floats yer boat.
Reason is made to be used with other things products. Its rewire integration is a great concept and works flawless for me (especially in Live4). Its like it was built in to Live.
Sure, I can't wait for Reason 3 to arrive, but there is so much other stuff out there that I can wait and be content with what I have. I'm always coming up with new ways to use its routing.
Plenty people at KVR could lerarn something from this bloke, be happy with what you have and if you get bored, try something in a diffrent way. A new update to software won't change your life, its just another option, an most of us have too many already.
[my dad]Kids today, they want everything and they want it now[/my dad]
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Yeah, those really hurts!AD80 wrote: And of course the innevitable "your a crack head" comments.
/Crackbaby
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theshaggyfreak theshaggyfreak https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35698
- KVRist
- 216 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Centreville, VA
The best piece of equipment you can have is your own brain. The person behind the computer is far more important than any gear or plugin you can have. You learn to make the best music you can with what you have. The greatest software in the world will not help you if you don't know how to utilize everything it can do.quincy wrote: Thats the lad, being excited about updates etc, but makig the best of what you have and finding new ways to use it.