Is it just me are do some actions are inconvenient for no apparant reason?

[ferez21]

How would you manage multiple sends and returns on the same channel? While not common, I sometimes send and return channels into and out of each other.

You place a "send" plugin on the Send track that you want to route further to another Send track.
The Return plugin is totally redundant.

[Kott]

How would you manage multiple sends and returns on the same channel? While not common, I sometimes send and return channels into and out of each other.

You place a "send" plugin on the Send track that you want to route further to another Send track.
The Return plugin is totally redundant.

No Return? Just use (empty)Racks for that. Or I didn't get your "logic".

[ferez21]

How would you manage multiple sends and returns on the same channel? While not common, I sometimes send and return channels into and out of each other.

You place a "send" plugin on the Send track that you want to route further to another Send track.
The Return plugin is totally redundant.

No Return? Just use (empty)Racks for that. Or I didn't get your "logic".

I admit that i am a new user and i am aware to the fact that i might be missing something, but like i said before, i literally used 8 (or even more) different DAWs lately, and Tracktion was the only one in which I couldn't figure out how send effects work without asking.

I just want to have a dedicated send effect channel, for a reverb for example, so i can send the output of different instruments to it to have varried amounts of reverb applied to them, just your simple run of the mill send reverb.

[Watchful]

How would you manage multiple sends and returns on the same channel? While not common, I sometimes send and return channels into and out of each other.

You place a "send" plugin on the Send track that you want to route further to another Send track.
The Return plugin is totally redundant.

Only if I'm doing a return to the original track. I'm talking about sending different tracks to one track, and returning to a different one or two. Situations like this come up from time to time with complex bus effects tracks, parallel tracks on vocal parts, and so on.

Also, I can control the point of return--where plug ins line up in relation to the return as well. If it's just a blind return, I lose that aspect instantly.

Waveform is very much set up to mimic a vintage studio in terms of its ability to recreate various wiring schemes. There are alternatives to sends and returns if you don't care to do them--racks, and changing inputs and outputs on the tracks themselves. If your needs are basic enough, there are ways outside of sends and returns that can help you customize your own workflow.

I suspect it's not that Waveform is old-fashioned in its layout, but that there are some maybe-not-so apparent reasons for doing what it's doing. The use of individual sends and returns gives me pinpoint control over the audio flow with minimal trouble.