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Held wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:19 am
Hexspa wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:43 am How can I send the mid (sum) information to the left speaker and the sides (difference) to the right at the same time? I can easily do this in RME TotalMixFX but, maybe MXXX doesn't have the necessary module, I'm stumped as to how to do that here. If you know how, please let me know! Thanks.
What about the "L&R to LR" module? Send the mid signal to the input and the sides to the side-chain input.
I think you're right. Please try this out to see if it's working for you:

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should have a '1' at the end to indicate this is the RME-style one. For some reason, TotalMixFX places a little bit of sides in the Left/Mid when enabling 'MS Proc.' and by disabling output 2 in MXXX, I get that same result. Idk, I don't fully understand it tbh. It sounds the same to me though and I've found that button very useful. Hopefully it's the same! Thanks, Held.

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Hexspa wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am I think you're right. Please try this out to see if it's working for you:
I think you need to enable the "Steal the side-chain" setting on your L&R2LR module.

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Held wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:56 am
Hexspa wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:41 am I think you're right. Please try this out to see if it's working for you:
I think you need to enable the "Steal the side-chain" setting on your L&R2LR module.
Are you using the one with the preset name '...ms1..."? I enabled that switch but didn't hear any difference. Like I said, I think we nailed it with this most recent one.

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No, I was using the previous one. Looks like you've solved it by disabling output 2. If you steal the side-chain, you can leave output 2 enabled. The end result will be the same.

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Held wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:22 pm No, I was using the previous one. Looks like you've solved it by disabling output 2. If you steal the side-chain, you can leave output 2 enabled. The end result will be the same.
Thanks for the feedback. I was lost :)

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Great, thanks! :tu:
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Hi, I updated this recently; the OP reflects it. This is a useful preset that makes use of the update. It's the crossovers set to 6dB/oct at 200, 400, 600 and 6,000Hz, mono engaged and the signal routed to the left loudspeaker. You can think of it as 'small speaker mode' where you can easily unmute the lower three bands to add progressively more bass to emulate a better mobile speaker, for example. Though I'm not sure if I linked to this article, untimely as it may be for Waves recent actions, but it's worth mentioning because it's the best article on mixing for small speakers that I've seen.

https://www.waves.com/tips-for-great-mi ... l-speakers

Anyway, here's the 'small speakers' preset:

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