What plugin lets me stack the most modulated notch filters in parallel ?

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fairlyclose wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:35 am https://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr2/
Does this let me route the bands in parallel? The website doesn't really make that clear.
Michael L wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:41 pm Spline EQ has vowel formant presets:
https://photosounder.com/splineeq/
This doesn't have modulation or parallel routing but looks interesting for fixed filterbank/resonator purposes, will check it out.

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dubguy99 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:08 pm
fairlyclose wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:35 am https://www.apulsoft.ch/apqualizr2/
Does this let me route the bands in parallel? The website doesn't really make that clear.
Michael L wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:41 pm Spline EQ has vowel formant presets:
https://photosounder.com/splineeq/
This doesn't have modulation or parallel routing but looks interesting for fixed filterbank/resonator purposes, will check it out.
Read under apqualizr main features. Try the demo
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Also Soniclab passbot

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Synapse Audio's DUNE3 has two bandpass filters per layer that can be in series or in parallel. With eight different layers you can have 16 bandpass filters all in parallel.

Edit: Sorry, just saw that this was in the effects sub-forum. I'll leave this here just in case it's of interest to the OP.
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fairlyclose wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:33 pm Also Soniclab passbot
Looks interesting but the demo instacrashes my DAW lol

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dubguy99 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:04 pm And I know what a vocoder is and what the differences between notches and BPs are, no need to give me audio 101 for my niche sound design request....
f**k off you ungrateful little twat.
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whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:10 pm
dubguy99 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:04 pm And I know what a vocoder is and what the differences between notches and BPs are, no need to give me audio 101 for my niche sound design request....
f**k off you ungrateful little twat.
whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 am
dubguy99 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:51 pm If all else fails, I could make an Ableton rack but that seems excessive.

Cmon devs! There's a ton of interesting weird parallel filter / filterbank modules in Eurorack land... but in VST land where you can (supposedly) do anything I can't even stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel?
You clearly can stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel, you've just said so.
Just what would I do without the great help of smartasses that quotetweet what I already said, but with italics? (I had clearly noted in the OP that I was looking for VSTs that do this interally, which the other posters had understood and have given appropriate recommendations, without the need to be a condescending, insulting smartass)
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dubguy99 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:53 am
whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 am
dubguy99 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:51 pm If all else fails, I could make an Ableton rack but that seems excessive.

Cmon devs! There's a ton of interesting weird parallel filter / filterbank modules in Eurorack land... but in VST land where you can (supposedly) do anything I can't even stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel?
You clearly can stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel, you've just said so.
I said in VST land ... and Ableton is technically DAW land :D

But really, is this application so niche that I have to resort to rigging Ableton racks and Reaktor setups? Am I the only one that likes stacking parallel filters?
Kind of seems like you want to do something but you're not interested in using anything that actually lets you do it :? A full modular environment (Reaktor, Voltage Modular, Plogue Bidule, etc.) or an Ableton rack would definitely be the best and most flexible way IMO but another suggestion is Kilohearts Snap Heap. You can set all the lanes to parallel mode and nest additional Snap Heap instances inside the main one for even more parallel lanes. Slap the filter snapin in each lane and you're in business. Unfortunately there are only two LFOs per Snap Heap instance (at least until the Khs v2 release :D ) so if you need an independent LFO for each filter it won't work (or you'll have to limit yourself to two lanes per instance and do more nesting).
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Greenstorm33 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:57 pm
dubguy99 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:53 am
whyterabbyt wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 am
dubguy99 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:51 pm If all else fails, I could make an Ableton rack but that seems excessive.

Cmon devs! There's a ton of interesting weird parallel filter / filterbank modules in Eurorack land... but in VST land where you can (supposedly) do anything I can't even stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel?
You clearly can stack a bunch of basic filters in parallel, you've just said so.
I said in VST land ... and Ableton is technically DAW land :D

But really, is this application so niche that I have to resort to rigging Ableton racks and Reaktor setups? Am I the only one that likes stacking parallel filters?
Kind of seems like you want to do something but you're not interested in using anything that actually lets you do it :? A full modular environment (Reaktor, Voltage Modular, Plogue Bidule, etc.) or an Ableton rack would definitely be the best and most flexible way IMO but another suggestion is Kilohearts Snap Heap. You can set all the lanes to parallel mode and nest additional Snap Heap instances inside the main one for even more parallel lanes. Slap the filter snapin in each lane and you're in business. Unfortunately there are only two LFOs per Snap Heap instance (at least until the Khs v2 release :D ) so if you need an independent LFO for each filter it won't work (or you'll have to limit yourself to two lanes per instance and do more nesting).
I'm already doing it in Softube Modular, I was just wondering if there's a more convenient and CPU friendly way to do it in a regular EQ/filter plugin.

I tried Kilohearts ages ago, will take a look again.

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Reaktor should be in everyone’s toolbox .
It will save you from creating threads like these !
You can literally create thousands of parallel filters when using the voice module .
I’ve created crystal clear vocoders , and partial resiners with hundreds of voices ( read filters ) that barely scratch the cpu meter .
Iow , get reaktor and learn how to use the voice module !
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Melda MFilter has parallel mode. 6 nodes, 4 modulators. On sale right now. Standard GUI feels logical and utilitarian to me.

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I always wonder why threads like that come up. Usually the DAW should do it easily. If you are into this kind of mindset you should consider switching…
HAL76 wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:33 pm golden rule: if X = quantity + Y = Modulation Z = Melda
golden rule: if X = quantity + Y = Modulation Z = Bitwig

I guess Reaktor would work out as well, but it has a magnitudes steeper learning curve…
In Bitwig its as simple as stacking stock plugins in a layer, as many as you like. Or if you need it dynamically, do it in the Grid as the Grid is polyphonic…

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For a task like this and have it as fast loading as possible and as CPU friendly I would always go with MUX Modular respectively the new Mulab 9 plugin...

You define the routing... as many filters as you like... superflexible LFO´s and Envelopes...
Loads in a blink of an eye, great sound with no noticeable CPU hit at all...

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HYFilter4?

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Kilohearts Slice EQ has up to 20 bands/filters and can be modulated with a Note modulator within Phase Plant, Snap Heap (free), or Multipass. If you modulate each filter with the same note modulator with the same amount they will move "in parallel" (pitch is exponential relative to frequency), tracking pitch. So it's perfect for formants.

You can see it used to great effect in a tutorial video where the tutor captures the resonances of a bell and applies it to various samples to imprint it upon them. Click through since embeds don't carry the timestamp (~4:10) correctly:

Another option could be MSoundFactory. The Modal Filter has 32 resonators that will automatically track with MIDI notes (can be modified). Not only that, it can capture resonances from a sample so you don't have to do as much manual work. In fact, you can set 4 resonator settings arranged in an XY pad that will morph between them. I use only MSoundFactory so not sure if this is available as an FX plugin but it probably is.

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