Studio One and Reason Should Partner

[jamcat]

I use a lot of VST instruments too. Mainly physical modeling instruments like SWAM, Pianoteq, and MODO DRUM. Studio One is great for all that too, but it is definitely geared towards the live recording side of things, whether that's audio or MIDI performances, in the way that Cubase and Logic are. People who need loopers, arpeggiators, modulators, etc, to make their music for them generally gravitate towards Ableton, Fruity Loops, or Bitwig. That's what I meant about "cookie cutter EDM."

[apoclypse]

Integration? It's just another instrument that shows up in the list, I don't see any magical powers within it.

Um no. I don't know how you use Impact but I usually take snatches of sounds in the project and drag them into the drum module. That doesn't work in Battery. Or when I slice a sample in the arrange view and drag it in I can spread that across my pads, you can't do that in Battery. Or how if I right click and send to impact it will automatically slice the sample based on my bend markers. Of if I'm in the drum view editor in S1 the names of the pads are automatically assigned even when I add new pads. I don't have to mess around with the options, know the note assigned or name those manually. Or how about when I assign a pad to an out S1 will automatically create the output channel (in mono or stereo) for me in the mixer.

It's not just another plugin and if you think that you are using it wrong.

[xbitz]

^^^ GA also supported

[chk071]

I'm totally fine with the Studio One effects. Stock effects are mostly way better than Reason's. And I couldn't care less about stock instruments.

Same here. For mixing/mastering purposes, I'm sure you'd do just fine with Studio One's included stuff.

Therefor... a strict no from me to the suggestion. I don't think anyone prevents you from using the Reason rack plugin in Studio One anyway.

[apoclypse]

^^^ GA also supported

That's pretty cool. You don't have to faf about with the naming options? It just adds them in?

[xbitz]

^^^ yepp (even the context menu on its different knobs etc. creates automation etc.), it has 30 days trial period btw. https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... ent/trial/

[apoclypse]

^^^ yepp (even the context menu on its different knobs etc. creates automation etc.), it has 30 days trial period btw. https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instrumen ... ent/trial/

Nice!

[BONES]

Um no. I don't know how you use Impact but I usually take snatches of sounds in the project and drag them into the drum module. That doesn't work in Battery. Or when I slice a sample in the arrange view and drag it in I can spread that across my pads, you can't do that in Battery. Or how if I right click and send to impact it will automatically slice the sample based on my bend markers. Of if I'm in the drum view editor in S1 the names of the pads are automatically assigned even when I add new pads. I don't have to mess around with the options, know the note assigned or name those manually. Or how about when I assign a pad to an out S1 will automatically create the output channel (in mono or stereo) for me in the mixer.

If you what to keep it simple, you should use it the way I do - load up a patch and you're ready to go. Battery adds output channels on demand, too.

It's not just another plugin and if you think that you are using it wrong.

Life's too short to be f**king around with shit like that. I got work needs doing by the most efficient means possible, which is why I mostly use Ujam drums these days. I used to cut up loops, 20 years ago when there weren't a gazillion sample libraries around, but Battery comes with 10,000+ samples so doing shit like that nowadays seems silly to me.

[apoclypse]

If you what to keep it simple, you should use it the way I do - load up a patch and you're ready to go. Battery adds output channels on demand, too.

No it doesn't. I can go to the outputs in the Plugin editor and add them their (all multi-out plugins do this anyway in S1) but if I right click on a pad and assign to an out it doesn't create the output for me like it does in Impact.

Life's too short to be f**king around with shit like that. I got work needs doing by the most efficient means possible, which is why I mostly use Ujam drums these days. I used to cut up loops, 20 years ago when there weren't a gazillion sample libraries around, but Battery comes with 10,000+ samples so doing shit like that nowadays seems silly to me.

We all know that "old man screaming at clouds" hot takes is your thing but just because you don't find something useful doesn't make it useless to everyone else. I sample chop because, hear me out, I like to do it. I know, that's crazy right? You are also assuming that I'm just chopping drums. I'm chopping vocals, loops, pads, sampled records etc.

[SebAV]

I can see your points. Thanks for pointing out HY Xbitz, I didn't realize that existed. I also get your point Bones as well, and I think you're right about the default content that S1 provides. I don't install it either. But, I do think Reason Studios is heading in the right direction with some of its new synths. I would take Algoritm and Friction as a stock synth any day. I also like the effort they are putting into their player devices. I just think it would be interesting if Reason Studios had an endpoint for their devices without concentrating on the DAW. I am just not that impressed with S1's sampler and built in synths. I do love Impact. And I have a ton of 3rd party plugs that would do the job if S1 came with nothing. I do think S1 could increase it's popularity with that partnership though, and it seems to me it would benefit both companies. But, they both know what they are doing and who their customers are, so who am I to say?

I think Europa is also kind of unique synth, far more than a wavetable synth

[BONES]

No it doesn't. I can go to the outputs in the Plugin editor and add them their (all multi-out plugins do this anyway in S1) but if I right click on a pad and assign to an out it doesn't create the output for me like it does in Impact.

Fair enough, it's not something I've had to bother with in a while. But the thing is, I've got 30 songs with Battery in them and it's just easier to keep using Battery when I import them into S1 than it is to replace them with Impact XT. And for anything new I work on, I use one of Ujam's drum instruments and Impact XT definitely can't compete with them. Which is not to say I don't like it, I actually think it's really good, I just don't need it. But if I'd been using S1 from the time I first started working ITB, I'm pretty sure I'd be using it for all my drums because, when it comes to drums, I'll always use what's easiest.

We all know that "old man screaming at clouds" hot takes is your thing but just because you don't find something useful doesn't make it useless to everyone else.

But this is you being the "old man screaming at clouds". I've moved with the times, you're still doing things the way we sort of had to 20 years ago.

You are also assuming that I'm just chopping drums. I'm chopping vocals, loops, pads, sampled records etc.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm talking about drums because we're talking about drums. But this probably gives us some insight into why you don't have a link to your music in your signature.

[wuworld]

Don't see Fender/Presonus doing anything like that. Version 6 on the way!

[wuworld]

I think Reason Studios should partner with Studio One. Reason Studios seems to be moving away from their own DAW and concentrating on the rack. Studio One is constantly criticized for not great stock instruments and effects (bar some exceptions). Seems like a great match. A super tight integration of Reason's devices in Studio One has the potential to bring existing modulator style control to Studio One like those found in Bitwig.

I am a Studio One user, but I also own Reason and Bitwig. I love the foundation of Studio One. It's stable and makes sense. I miss the modulators and experimental feel of Bitwig. I love the way Reason looks, but it isn't the best workflow for me. I think Reason/Studio One combo would make both stronger. Just my opinion of course.

They aren't going to do it though.

[Downangle]

I know. But it would be cool if they did it right.

[apoclypse]

But this is you being the "old man screaming at clouds". I've moved with the times, you're still doing things the way we sort of had to 20 years ago.

That’s funny you are the one cursing and gnashing his teeth because a DAW dared to include a drum module. How is it old school to work as the DAW is intended to work? Like usual you bring stupid to the conversation.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm talking about drums because we're talking about drums. But this probably gives us some insight into why you don't have a link to your music in your signature.

No we were talking about how integrated Impact is in S1 vs something like Battery. Do try to keep up. The only insight you should be worried about is you lack of keeping up with a conversation you initiated (with your usual bullshit hot takes).Nice try at deflecting though.

As for why I don’t post my music here. I’ve never heard your music will never hear your music, mostly because you constantly make an ass of yourself on this forum and that makes me not want to support. I post my music under a different pseudonym and let people judge it on its own. I’m not really looking for validation from the likes of you or anyone here for that matter.

I’m strictly on this forum to converse about music tech, gear, techniques, daws etc. I’m not here to shove my music down peoples throats. I personally find that off putting. Makes me want to support the artists less not more.