chk071 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:26 pmIf you ask me, the reason is that those are the much better sounding synths. "Uninspiring" is the word that came to my mind when listening to many sound demos of Kyra.hhuang9611 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:21 pm Yeah… that would make sense. I also do feel like Kyra is somehow overshadowed by Quantum/Iridium for no reason.
Of course, that's pretty subjective. But, considering you never really read much about the synth, I don't think I'm that far off.
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- KVRian
- 788 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA
Fair point. And I guess the reason I didn’t get the hype of Quantum may just be that I’m not seriously into hardware synth (yet). And my music is really focused on one genre, so I’m only paying attention to certain sound and I basically find both Kyra and Quantum inspiring.
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Which kind of genre are you focusing on, if I may ask. I find that the Waldorf synths (also Quantum) excel in Ambient sounds. Not only I find that they sound good for those sounds, but, they also lend themselves due to the feature set.
- KVRian
- 788 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA
It’s Trance, where the access virus has been (probably will continue to be) the holy grill. So basically those massive, hypersaw kind of stuff. And I guess since Kyra was supposed to be “the next virus ti,” it makes sense I’m more drawn to it.
chk071 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:38 pm Which kind of genre are you focusing on, if I may ask. I find that the Waldorf synths (also Quantum) excel in Ambient sounds. Not only I find that they sound good for those sounds, but, they also lend themselves due to the feature set.
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- KVRian
- 788 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA
Anyway, I think I have made my mind to buy Kyra (I think at $1333 right now, it is a decent investment)
Just need to convince my significant other about spending the money (you know how it goes)
Will report back more once I get my hands on the synth
Just need to convince my significant other about spending the money (you know how it goes)
Will report back more once I get my hands on the synth
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- KVRian
- 1347 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
You just have to demo it yourself to know. I played a used Quantum in a store last year and was dumbfounded -yea, that's the right word, it was amazing. The Kyra maybe perfect for you, if you can try it out somewhere to see if it is buggy or good enough to use that is what I would do.hhuang9611 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:21 pm Yeah… that would make sense. I also do feel like Kyra is somehow overshadowed by Quantum/Iridium for no reason. Sure, Kyra may have some flaws, but it’s really a different beast. I don’t think I can hook up iridium and expect it to output a lush hypersaw lead, a juicy bass, and a massive pad all at the same time right into my DAW while I can edit the midi as much as I want.
- KVRAF
- 12242 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Has anyone checked with any US retailers to see if they’d match that price?hhuang9611 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:34 pm Kyra is now only $1300-1400 if buying from Thomann and ship to USA…
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- KVRian
- 788 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA
Just out of curiosity, I asked Sweetwater. Got this reply... Not even offering slightest discount.
We don’t normally price match. As nobody as the level of service we do. Thomann is a European dealer as well, so odds are there will be shipping and import costs for it, and then if it needs warranty servicing, you have to ship it back to Europe. They also do not have one in stock. We have one ready to ship. Do you have any questions on the unit? Let me know when I can get this order set up for you!
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- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
V2 already gave it the FM engine. A pretty huge improvement as far as hardware synths go, although I admit it's the engine I used the least.Benutzername wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 2:39 pm Quantum owners are still waiting for the promised V3 firmware. It went into a closed beta two years ago but nothing happened since then.
With Kyra, OTOH, it would be surprising to see any upgrades or even a second version.
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Waldorf will bring a special limited edition of the Kyra: https://www.amazona.de/waldorf-kyra-se- ... e-edition/
The only difference to the original Kyra is the colour.
The only difference to the original Kyra is the colour.
- KVRAF
- 12242 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I still like the white much better, but I guess that means Waldorf hasn’t completely abandoned it yet.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 901 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
It looks great in blue.
On the other hand 200 euros more for a very expensive color to pay and really useless.
On the other hand, Waldorf would have had to be smart and it would have been much more relevant to have a software update done and to correct the bugs and to release the potential and power of the Kyra.
Waldorf misses it again.
On the other hand 200 euros more for a very expensive color to pay and really useless.
On the other hand, Waldorf would have had to be smart and it would have been much more relevant to have a software update done and to correct the bugs and to release the potential and power of the Kyra.
Waldorf misses it again.
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- KVRian
- 890 posts since 9 May, 2005
I doubt the increase in price has anything to do with the blue color/paint.
More likely because of supply-chain issues (and increased costs).
If you've priced musical instruments the past couple of years, there's been a steady increase in price.
ie: Moog One 16 voice is now $9k. I believe it was ~$7k when it was released.
More likely because of supply-chain issues (and increased costs).
If you've priced musical instruments the past couple of years, there's been a steady increase in price.
ie: Moog One 16 voice is now $9k. I believe it was ~$7k when it was released.
- KVRian
- 788 posts since 1 Mar, 2018 from USA
This would be true if the original model is also selling at a high price... which is not the case. For example, Thomann still sells it for 1300-ish usd, the same price as always (minus the effect of currency exchange rate fluctuation, of course)
Jim Roseberry wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:49 pm I doubt the increase in price has anything to do with the blue color/paint.
More likely because of supply-chain issues (and increased costs).
If you've priced musical instruments the past couple of years, there's been a steady increase in price.
ie: Moog One 16 voice is now $9k. I believe it was ~$7k when it was released.
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 8 Dec, 2014
i come back around looking at the kyra every so often but i never get over the hump to actually pull the trigger, maybe the discussion around it dissuades me but also theres only that many synths >1k i can buy :>
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Frankly, I said it before, but, I think, for that price, you fare better with getting a Virus anyway. The Kyra's sound just doesn't gel with me.
If you want to have the Waldorf sound, you're probably better with getting the M or an Iridium anyway.
If you want to have the Waldorf sound, you're probably better with getting the M or an Iridium anyway.