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chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:18 am Sequential Prophet REV2-8 - used to be 1299 € list price (if I recall correctly... could have been 1.399 € as well). List price 1.899,99 € now, typical store price 1.799,99 €.
I bought a REV2-16 module the other day, and good part is that it is only €100 more than REV2-8 module.

I looked at REV2-8 module 2019, and it was like you said around €1300. Then 16 voice were like today.

So REV2-16 seems to stay from what it was a couple of years ago.

Incredible value for a 16 voice analog with all the capabilities it has. Dual timbre too, loads of modulation routings, 20+ even - each layer.
True delight to work with.

But there are places where prices go all over, no logic to it at all. 8-voice more expensive than 16 voice etc, I saw somewhere looking around.

But I was lucky, mine was on stock - next delivery from that store is october 7th. So anything can happend with prices till then.

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the second part wasn't aimed at you, i just riffed off my reply to you :oops:
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i bought a martin and a gibson LP recently and checked on prices as of late... the martin is up $100 and the LP Standard is up $300. thank God i bought them when i did.

as for economics... inflation on merchandise is dictated by supply and demand (not going into the value of the fiat) when demand is low supply backs up and only then does prices drop. the only true way to fight back is... they twist your arm... you twist theirs back.

look at video cards... true there was/is a slight chip shortage but most companies HAVE chip stores. the main reason for them to be SO overpriced is because miners bought them all up to mine coin in the past depleting supply so prices naturally went up but they began to gouge. now miners have pretty much moved on to different hardware to be more efficient speed/power consumption leaving the video cards piling up with their exuberant price tags. no one is buying them. slowly but surely they are coming back down. sadly the fiat devaluation, labor pay increase and shipping cost increase are slowing the process... again trying to maintain the almighty profit margin. it is fairly simple math.

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Yeah, I agree that the prices only will fall when there's less sales.

So, guys, please stop buying, ok? ;)

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chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:48 pm Yeah, I agree that the prices only will fall when there's less sales.

So, guys, please stop buying, ok? ;)
which synths are you after? i won't buy them. :)
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Hehe, not looking for a specific synth. :) I'm just often looking at prices, and how they develop.

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well i can't just promise in general. im too weak for that, i reckon i could have coped eliminating a few from the possibles but not all :( sorry.
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I paid €2100 for my Martin D-28 in 2014. They're going for €4000 now.
I could make a nice little profit on it, but that won't happen. Unless we need to eat.
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I noticed a few fairly ubiquitous sales very recently - my main supplier's prices all went up as with everywhere else, but they're having sales on a wide range of gear. Probably precisely because they're not selling at these inflated prices. Most of the cheaper end of Behringer synths had around half of their inflation increases slashed - TD3s, MOs, Wasp, Moogs, DeepMind all reduced closer to their pre-gouging prices. Strangely their pricier end remained inflated. MonoPoly etc have no sales on. Looking at Korg's stuff I didn't notice much of an increase strangely - the MinilogueXD still goes for $1100 which it did before inflation/profiteering took hold, and Polylogue 8 still looks to be the same price. As for Sequential...well A) they were stupidly priced already, and most NZ suppliers simply aren't selling them currently - no stock anywhere it seems. I didn't really look at Moogs as I don't want one, but they're mostly sold at RockShop so I assume they'll be inflated.

I might have to just take the plunge and buy an XD before they get inflated too.

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I mostly just buy and sell used synths and I’ve certainly noticed that secondhand synths are going for more, and selling quicker, in the past few months as retail prices for new items have increased and supply has decreased. But, a lot of people still haven’t gotten the memo, so there are still many stupidly good deals to be had in my area. I’m about to buy another synth or two that I don’t have the time, space, or inputs for just because I’ve always wanted them and can easily resell them for more than I’ll be paying.
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Having no room or spare inputs is no excuse for not buying more toys. If you try hard enough you can squeeze in more space and buy another patch bay. It's like like the old adage...when your ashtray's full, you need to buy a new car. If your studio's full, you need a bigger studio. I'm pretty sure it's a law of physics - space will expand to fit more synthesizers. :hihi:

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You should see all the guitar cases in our livingroom. And under the bed. And in various nooks and crannies.
I've gone a bit haywire in the last year. 2 new electrics, 2 acoustics. I was aiming for 13 gits, but I somehow have 16 now.
I hate when that happens.
So does the missus. :help:
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Shit sucks, I was looking for an Overstayer MAS and the only two for sale on reverb are listed by some clowns asking twice the price of a new one.

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lfm wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:48 pm
chk071 wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:18 am Sequential Prophet REV2-8 - used to be 1299 € list price (if I recall correctly... could have been 1.399 € as well). List price 1.899,99 € now, typical store price 1.799,99 €.
I bought a REV2-16 module the other day, and good part is that it is only €100 more than REV2-8 module.

I looked at REV2-8 module 2019, and it was like you said around €1300. Then 16 voice were like today.

So REV2-16 seems to stay from what it was a couple of years ago.

Incredible value for a 16 voice analog with all the capabilities it has. Dual timbre too, loads of modulation routings, 20+ even - each layer.
True delight to work with.

But there are places where prices go all over, no logic to it at all. 8-voice more expensive than 16 voice etc, I saw somewhere looking around.

But I was lucky, mine was on stock - next delivery from that store is october 7th. So anything can happend with prices till then.
I got the Rev2-16 keyboard version last year. I was a bit annoyed that it had already gone up from ~€1,900 to €2,000. Now it's €2,500 at Thomann.
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Yea. The MPC One went from $699 to $899 MSRP. Basically have to buy hardware from discount retailers, now. Shipping costs more, but the price is still lower.

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