KVR Audio

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:43 pm

hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:23 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:18 pm Actually, a Moog Minitaur seems to be a perfect choice, when you just want it for bass lines anyway. Maybe a used one? Go for about 350 to 400 € here (which is insane though... maybe you find some cheaper ones. Just confirms my impressions of the used market. Total scam.).
Yeah, but no delay, no presets (?). Almost no features for the money.

can save patchs on the computer, but needs to be connected obviously to use them. don't know if you use a laptop as well?

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:56 pm

hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:23 pm
chk071 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:18 pm Actually, a Moog Minitaur seems to be a perfect choice, when you just want it for bass lines anyway. Maybe a used one? Go for about 350 to 400 € here (which is insane though... maybe you find some cheaper ones. Just confirms my impressions of the used market. Total scam.).
Yeah, but no delay, no presets (?). Almost no features for the money.

Naw, it has presets and they're actually pretty easy to navigate (in 1-increment steps) from the front panel or by a simple program/bank change send from a MIDI controller (my preferred method). It's actually a pretty fantastic and diverse synth with a nice combination of immediacy, great sound, compact size, and deeper than it looks. The software editor is nicely done as well and makes preset storage, management, and selection even easier. I've got two other Moogs (Slim Phatty and Sub37) and I'd probably sell the Sub37 before I'd sell my Minitaur.

But, you’re correct that it lacks delay, so that’s probably the dealbreaker.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:04 am

[oops, irrelevant post]

Azbest · Post by **Azbest** » Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:28 am

The Minitaur is the correct answer here. It's a well crafted synth with an excellent software editor added at no cost. It is a little more expensive than Behringer's modules, but it is a Moog after all. Sounds great (the sub is massive), has OSC reset and it's built to last. No delay? How is that even a problem. It seems like OP's expectations exceed his budget.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:31 pm

hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:17 pm this is a must for plucky percussive bass.

No, it’s not.

hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:17 pm any suggestions?

Yes, stop and think about that for a moment. Do you really think that all plucky percussive basses were made with the small handful of synths mentioned here that have OSC Reset? My Waldorf Pulse 2 makes basses that will poke a hole in your skull without using OSC Reset

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:07 am

cryophonik wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:31 pm
hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:17 pm this is a must for plucky percussive bass.
No, it’s not.

hcv242 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:17 pm any suggestions?
Yes, stop and think about that for a moment. Do you really think that all plucky percussive basses were made with the small handful of synths mentioned here that have OSC Reset? My Waldorf Pulse 2 makes basses that will poke a hole in your skull without using OSC Reset

I have a pulse 2 and i know how to use it. The free running oscilators make that each note starts at a random phase. In the style of music that i do , the bass and the kick use the same frequencies. This results in random phase cancelation when mixing kick + bass. Sorry, you havent helped a bit.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:36 am

hcv242 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:07 am Sorry, you havent helped a bit.

Well, you know what they say: you can't help people who can't help themselves. Sorry I tried and good luck figuring it out.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:52 am

Nord micro modular is awesome...... And small. The evolver is fun too. That's what I think of for a small desktop synth. You could build one very easily as well for a hundred bucks or less if you already have soldering gear.

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:53 am

Ah_Dziz wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:52 am Nord micro modular is awesome...... And small. The evolver is fun too. That's what I think of for a small desktop synth. You could build one very easily as well for a hundred bucks or less if you already have soldering gear.

Can any of the mentioned synths restart the oscilators phase on midi note on?

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 am

Both. I thought that was your only prerequisite. Both are small to the point that the majority or all of your patching would have to be CPU based. Both allow for the front panel controls to be used as macros outside of standard midi cc control and such too. Making simple live tweaks easy. I recommended them for a reason. Either is a decent purchase and is useful for far more than bass should you want.

Good luck
JJ

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:17 am

Also building a phase rest is a piece of piss if you're bulging your own little machine.

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:08 pm

does anyone knows if any of the roland boutiques has the possibility to restart the oscillator phase on midi note on ?

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:27 pm

what about the micromonsta 2. has anyone here tried it ?

https://www.audiothingies.com/product/micromonsta2/

Small mono desktop synth that can restart the osc phase on midi note on.