Tracktion Universe 2023

[pough]

Finally we're getting actual numbers of how many people use Waveform.
@4:52 "...and we're rolling these out in a free update out for all 12 users."

[nowgad]

After watching the promo video, and even more so after watching the video from above, I conclude that there is a bias towards content creators, and not towards the musical component. Well, they promised to release an update during NAMM 23. And apparently there are problems that do not allow this. So, as always, we are waiting for billions of bugs. I'm very optimistic And by the way, the guy in the video says version 12.4) is that a caveat?
Thank you for the video, jabe!

[jabe]

[Purpan]

Has anyone any hints yet on when the update might arrive?

[nowgad]

Has anyone any hints yet on when the update might arrive?

Early!)) They still have April 30)

Upd.
"I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

[Kido]

Better to let it come out when it's ready.
To be honest, though, I'm excited myself.

[anli]

Have there been any rumors about whether the windowing under Linux will be fixed? In particular, I mean using native system decoration, movement, resizing for plugin windows and other dialogue windows.

Current state is really very, very unhandy. Almost stopper. It is a reason I switch to Reaper from time to time.

[exponent1]

I just want it to be stable and faster.

Been experiencing a lot of crashes of the audio engine even with plugin sandboxing on and the saves/load times are really slow for a similar spec-ed project compared to DAWs like Reaper and BWS. I quite like the workflow but these sort of niggles prevent it from being a reliable and studio-quality DAW.

Not sure if Waveform is only eye-ing at the bedroom producer's market, but please make it more faster, more stable and reliable first.

I hope 12.5 (or incremental stability updates) fixes these things else I will have to go back to Reaper or switch to BWS.

[UnionS8]

I just want it to be stable and faster.

Been experiencing a lot of crashes of the audio engine even with plugin sandboxing on and the saves/load times are really slow for a similar spec-ed project compared to DAWs like Reaper and BWS. I quite like the workflow but these sort of niggles prevent it from being a reliable and studio-quality DAW.

Not sure if Waveform is only eye-ing at the bedroom producer's market, but please make it more faster, more stable and reliable first.

I hope 12.5 (or incremental stability updates) fixes these things else I will have to go back to Reaper or switch to BWS.

When the plugin sandboxing is turned on, Waveform crashes more often. It's well known issue

[exponent1]

Oh god! If sandboxing crashes Waveform more often, I am not sure why are they spending time developing more features instead of making stability and reliability their #1 priority! I have glanced at most threads and the #1 reason people ditch this DAW is because of the stability and reliability problems.

• Tracktion is now almost 2 decades old, with enough experience in DSP but is still lagging behind other DAWs.
• Focus less on marketing and more on making your product robust.
• REAPER has next to no marketing, yet is a solid recommendation every single time because it is a very reliable, inexpensive, fast and customizable DAW. It doesn't look or feel half as good as Waveform, but I can be certain that I will have a fast, reliable and hence pleasant experience using it.
• Not sure if you want your DAW to be used in studios as opposed to just being used by bedroom producers (not all though, I'm a living room producer myself) that don't care about crashes and performance issues!
• Maybe you don't care as much about the free users, but the paid users do have a say. I have invested enough money that I could have instead used to buy Bitwig Studio which is better in everyway. Please do something about it!
• But if free and amateur users are your target audience, then it's all good

I really really want Waveform to shine because the workflow is like no other DAW and it really resonates with me. I hope the team addresses this in the near and long-term future.

PS: Probably no one from Tracktion will read this, but I really want you guys to succeed and will wait for the day when I can whole-heartedly recommend your product to anyone, who wants to make music. But sadly, we're not there yet.

[nowgad]

Hi! the sandbox has one very important property: in large projects, if waveform suddenly fails and the project cannot be opened, then enabling the sandbox allows you not to lose the work done and remove the plugin, which leads to failures. but! this shows how daw works with some plugins but, it can also tell about how the code for these plugins is written And the developers of Tracktion directly say that, unfortunately, there is no standard in this case and therefore failures will occur. here is such a looped road The sandbox isn't Waveform's biggest problem, it's not even a problem.

Under all other words I subscribe and agree 1000%

[anli]

instead of making stability and reliability their #1 priority!

Version 12 is a big step here. Take a version into account on your research.

[UnionS8]

Hi! the sandbox has one very important property: in large projects, if waveform suddenly fails and the project cannot be opened, then enabling the sandbox allows you not to lose the work done and remove the plugin, which leads to failures. but! this shows how daw works with some plugins but, it can also tell about how the code for these plugins is written And the developers of Tracktion directly say that, unfortunately, there is no standard in this case and therefore failures will occur. here is such a looped road The sandbox isn't Waveform's biggest problem, it's not even a problem.

Well, sort of. Sandboxing is partially Waveform's problem since it crashes more often with the feature turned on. So there is something, that doesn't work well with sandboxing. Also it creates one huge sandbox for all plugins, so one faulty plugin takes down all the others.

[rickpress]

If you don't use vst3 Linux plugins on the Linux version of waveform there doesn't seem to be problems. Opening a vst3 hangs the system but if you leave it two mins it will work fine and u hang. Not sure what's going on there.

[rickpress]

Alternatively you can load the lin vst3 into Carla and avoid problems