Arturia - Augmented Brass

[simmo75]

Does this instrument too have the Arturia flagship features?
Crazy load times & high CPU usage?

Only if you have a proper wank computer
Non of Arturia’s plugins have high cpu use on my mac.

[BBFG#]

Does this instrument too have the Arturia flagship features?
Crazy load times & high CPU usage?

Only if you have a proper wank computer
Non of Arturia’s plugins have high cpu use on my mac.

Sounds like some actual numbers might be more appropriate here.
i.e.
Initial load time = _____ (Standalone)
CPU usage = ____%
Initial load time = _____ (DAW ____)
CPU usage = ____%
And then OS, CPU/Cores, RAM, HD specs.

[Fannon]

Does this instrument too have the Arturia flagship features?
Crazy load times & high CPU usage?

Only if you have a proper wank computer
Non of Arturia’s plugins have high cpu use on my mac.

Sounds like some actual numbers might be more appropriate here.
i.e.
Initial load time = _____ (Standalone)
CPU usage = ____%
Initial load time = _____ (DAW ____)
CPU usage = ____%
And then OS, CPU/Cores, RAM, HD specs.

So I haven't really mesured it excactly, because I do have a fast PC. But if you compare Arturia Plugins with u-he plugins, I noticed that starting Reaper with a Track with an u-he synth in it is still faster than starting an Arturia Plugin.

I just tried:
* Startging Arturia Pigments standalone: ~7s
* Startin Reaper + Zebra HZ + some Limiter: ~4s
* Starting u-he hive within DAW (Reaper): ~1s
* Starting Pigments within DAW: ~4s

Also at some point I did some comparing of Pigments to Vital regarding performance and it was taking more CPU as well, (and for sure more than Hive 2 or Zebra I think). If I remember right, it was about 0-50% more CPU, depending on features. But if you have a decent CPU, I think it's not that much of a problem.

On the other side, the Arturia synths do have a visual feedback rich UI, which does come with a price.

[BBFG#]

What is your specific CPU/Cores, RAM, HD/SSD?And what about Augmented Brass? (Which is the topic.)
I'll check my 7 year old and 12 year old computers soon and post for comparison. But they generally don't use much CPU either, I do have a good amount of RAM and use multiple SSDs though.

[Fannon]

I have a Ryzen 5800X and a Samsung 980 PRO M2 SSD, so that should be on the high-end side of things regarding startup performance. RAM Shouldn't matter much, but it's 32GB DDR4 3600Mhz.

Ok, now that I've tried again, the Arturia Standalones start faster (maybe it's cached now):

Arturia Brass takes about 3-4 seconds to load and Arturia Pigments maybe 4-5 (Standalone).

In Bitwig Studio, plugin loading time seems to be higher. About 4-6 seconds for Arturia Brass oder Pigments and about 1 second (maybe less) for u-he synths.

But I wouldn't judge this by loading times. However, I do appreciate that about some plugins that they're almost instantly there. This gives me the impression that the developers really cared about making it efficient.

[BBFG#]

Yes, I've noticed that the second instance or the second time I open them they're quicker. I do think RAM is part n of the equation, however, anything over 12GB seems to be as good as more for this test. 8GB or less is where one might see a slight increase of load time. My two machines are 28GB and 68GB respectively. Have yet to actually time these though. Will try in the next couple of days though. (The real music computer is some 17 miles away and I haven't been getting up there as much recently.)

Edit/update: on my Win10 v3 4 Core Xeon w/28GB RAM the standalone opens at 6 seconds. In Bitwig the first instance opened at 14 seconds and the second instance opened at 4 seconds...

[Zipede]

Augmented Brass loads in less than 2 seconds for me, Pigments just over 2. Analog Lab is the slowest to load at around 6.

i9 10900K @ 3.70GHz
32.0GB RAM
SSD
Ableton

[nakst]

However, I do appreciate that about some plugins that they're almost instantly there. This gives me the impression that the developers really cared about making it efficient.

As a developer who spent the time making my plugins load quickly, it really frustrates me whenever I try to use a plugin that takes more than a second to load.

My plugin Altitude is roughly comparable in terms of features with Arturia's Pigments, and yet it's able to load in roughly ~200ms. A customer told me it felt instant when running in the latest Bitwig beta.

And it's not like my code is doing anything super advanced to achieve these numbers. I just build my plugins from the ground up with good performance in mind. It seems like such a waste to go to the effort of making the DSP engine run efficiently and then give up when it comes to load times and the GUI...

[Cuauhtli]

Amazing technology and we're pissed off because it takes five seconds to load. Nothing funnier than a guitar player kicking the crap out of his tube amp because he has to wait for it to warm up.

Reminds me of a joke by some comedian who said we should get punched in the face when walking into the dmv. That way the wait wouldn't seem so bad in comparison. In the future everything will be instantaneous but the dmv will still take 9 seconds and we'll be b@#%ing about that. "Come on! I have to be at work in four seconds!"

And I'm no different. It annoys me how long it takes for my DAW to load. Just strange to me how we perceive our world sometimes.

I just found out about this plugin. I rarely get any notifications from Arturia and I own most of their software and some of their hardware.

[Fannon]

Well, I don't discount the Arturia Plugins because of their long loading time. They're doing a really great job - also with sound design and content. But being a software dev myself, I can appreciate that some plugins are developed in a way they're starting up quick and run performant. That's usually the result of an investment in efficient programming / architecture style.

[Zipede]

Amazing technology and we're pissed off because it takes five seconds to load. Nothing funnier than a guitar player kicking the crap out of his tube amp because he has to wait for it to warm up.

Reminds me of a joke by some comedian who said we should get punched in the face when walking into the dmv. That way the wait wouldn't seem so bad in comparison. In the future everything will be instantaneous but the dmv will still take 9 seconds and we'll be b@#%ing about that. "Come on! I have to be at work in four seconds!"

And I'm no different. It annoys me how long it takes for my DAW to load. Just strange to me how we perceive our world sometimes.

I just found out about this plugin. I rarely get any notifications from Arturia and I own most of their software and some of their hardware.

Anything under 10 seconds is fine with me, it's not as if I need to load plugins repeatedly.

[grrrz]

I have the other from V9 but haven't tried it yet; is is usable for classic voice/string sounds without the whole augmented thing?

[grrrz]

honestly arturia plugins have been doing a little better regarding loading time and UI loading time in the latest versions. it's not the fastest though (AAS CV-1 for me has the most responsive UI)

[Matnids]

Do anyone know for how long the introprice is running?

[zzz00m]

I have the other from V9 but haven't tried it yet; is is usable for classic voice/string sounds without the whole augmented thing?

The Augmented series in intended to be a synth. Not going to replace your sample libraries for classic sounds.

I really do like how they can blend the synth and sample layers to provide a varied sonic palette. Very playable instrument using just the macros. Plus the advanced view opens up the synth details, so there are opportunities for sound design!