Also noticed a noticeable increase in CPU consumption.carlosigls wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:46 pm I should not have upgraded to this version 12.5, I have been testing Sitala which is a plugin that does not consume anything and in this version it takes 16% Cpu with all the outputs, I have tested it in Reaper and it does not reach 2%. They need to improve that. The problem from what I see more carefully is that when you accept that it generates all the plugin outputs, it creates 16 instances of the plugin, not one, and the outputs therefore increase the consumption excessively. I have tested Kontakt and it goes up to 38% cpu.
waveform update
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- KVRist
- 30 posts since 22 Feb, 2021
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 7 Jul, 2018
Update is unusable for me (intel mac). Glitches and increasing sound break-up, even with stock Waveform plug-ins. I’ve gone back to 12.1. I imagine it will be sorted out pretty soon.
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
Fixed: Now WF correctly transmits track names to plugins. For example, for comparison tools Psyscope pro, Spectrum 2, Hornet multi freqs now you do not need to manually enter the track name.
NON FIXED: when using the modulator on other tracks (other than the track where it is installed) and then installing any plugin on this, other, track, the modulator settings are reset. Example: we install the Envelope Follower on Track 7, with the same modulator we modulate any parameter on Track 1. Everything works great. As soon as we add any plugin to Track 1, the modulator resets all settings and targets on Track 1. This problem comes with version 11!!!!! Is it really hard to fix it? how old is this mistake? almost 5?
And what "religion" prevents you from adding an "infinite" number of points to the Breakpoint Modifier and changing the curvature of the segment?
mmmm, and now why do we need to display one equalizer in 3, three, three!!! screen locations? It would be enough for me to look at it in the plugin window when calling it. When I proposed one idea to developers, I didn't think that in the end I would get 1% of the implementation of this idea
Regarding the CPU load, I don't see much difference between the versions, everything works within the loads of the previous version, there are no jumps.
Who knows how to enter the rack now after applying "...multi-out wrapper..."? - it's decided. And by the way, Undo does not work after applying "... multi-out wrapper...", in the sense it does not remove this rack.
Well, the most delicious thing is, look at the picture again, nothing changes from version to version, this problem passes. It's the same with midi. Be careful and when you record clips, then take a warning (lookahead
) in order not to lose sounds, notes... But! When rendering the entire composition, nothing is lost, but I still leave one bar empty at the beginning so that nothing is lost.
The rest of the innovations don't really impress me, maybe I'll try them somehow, try them out.
A user of the Waveform PRO version who believed the developers and who expected that the developers would take the most terrible flaws more seriously.
Good luck to everyone!
NON FIXED: when using the modulator on other tracks (other than the track where it is installed) and then installing any plugin on this, other, track, the modulator settings are reset. Example: we install the Envelope Follower on Track 7, with the same modulator we modulate any parameter on Track 1. Everything works great. As soon as we add any plugin to Track 1, the modulator resets all settings and targets on Track 1. This problem comes with version 11!!!!! Is it really hard to fix it? how old is this mistake? almost 5?
And what "religion" prevents you from adding an "infinite" number of points to the Breakpoint Modifier and changing the curvature of the segment?
mmmm, and now why do we need to display one equalizer in 3, three, three!!! screen locations? It would be enough for me to look at it in the plugin window when calling it. When I proposed one idea to developers, I didn't think that in the end I would get 1% of the implementation of this idea
Regarding the CPU load, I don't see much difference between the versions, everything works within the loads of the previous version, there are no jumps.
Who knows how to enter the rack now after applying "...multi-out wrapper..."? - it's decided. And by the way, Undo does not work after applying "... multi-out wrapper...", in the sense it does not remove this rack.
Well, the most delicious thing is, look at the picture again, nothing changes from version to version, this problem passes. It's the same with midi. Be careful and when you record clips, then take a warning (lookahead
The rest of the innovations don't really impress me, maybe I'll try them somehow, try them out.
A user of the Waveform PRO version who believed the developers and who expected that the developers would take the most terrible flaws more seriously.
Good luck to everyone!
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 14 Aug, 2006
Sooooo glad this update was free
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Processor AMD PRO A10-8750B R7, 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G 3.60 GHz
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System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
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- KVRAF
- 2456 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK
I recall a new VSTi mentioned in the NAMM videos. I think it was called Additive and a player of files of assorted formats, including BioTek and others. Can't find it on the menus in 12.5.3, however. Has anyone located it? Cheers.
Before the update I opened 12.1.x and went to the download manager. I opted to update to Waveform 12.5.3 and it said it had installed it. I reopened it and it was still version 12.1.x. Had to run the downloaded exe. Not really a problem, but the download manager said the installed version was updated and it wasn't.
The download manager tells me Windows Stem Separation Content is installed, but Split To Stems tells me it can't find the required feature pack and it's not in my Downloads folder. [Asked it to Reinstall from Download Manager and it is now usable].
Before the update I opened 12.1.x and went to the download manager. I opted to update to Waveform 12.5.3 and it said it had installed it. I reopened it and it was still version 12.1.x. Had to run the downloaded exe. Not really a problem, but the download manager said the installed version was updated and it wasn't.
The download manager tells me Windows Stem Separation Content is installed, but Split To Stems tells me it can't find the required feature pack and it's not in my Downloads folder. [Asked it to Reinstall from Download Manager and it is now usable].
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9/10/11/12/13, 32(to W8)&64 all, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
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- KVRian
- 501 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
Yup, same message here. just been running that stems install a few times. Turned off the auto install option, downloaded (many times) watched the temp download file thingy appear and then vanish when the download finished, but can't for the life of me find it after that. Re-installed Waveform, no joy.
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
There was also an error at the end of the installation, I pressed Repeat and everything worked.
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that there is a difference between the record in version 12.1.8 and 12.5.3. Based on the pace of fixing this bug, we will get a normal record, from the zero point, in 5-6 years. In the meantime, we will admire the beautiful wave shape... during the hours of reflection, we will click on the hide/open global tracks button, including the Arranger track, which in principle does not need to be hidden, well, or have an option for it at least to ignore this action...
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that there is a difference between the record in version 12.1.8 and 12.5.3. Based on the pace of fixing this bug, we will get a normal record, from the zero point, in 5-6 years. In the meantime, we will admire the beautiful wave shape... during the hours of reflection, we will click on the hide/open global tracks button, including the Arranger track, which in principle does not need to be hidden, well, or have an option for it at least to ignore this action...
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- KVRAF
- 2456 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK
Has anyone tried the video file option? I was hoping to get tracks named Video 1, Video 2, etc, but can't see how. I've dragged a small file to a music track and also loaded one via the Video button, but can't get to the video window, which appears to be there, but I can't get to it. Most odd.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9/10/11/12/13, 32(to W8)&64 all, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
it seems to work correctly
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- KVRAF
- 2456 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK
- KVRist
- 46 posts since 30 Jul, 2018 from USA
Is Waveform Pro offered without a bundle? I was going to wait till v13 and a sale to get a cheaper price, (I'm currently using Pro v11). It seems the cheapest price is $300. That includes Biotek & Retromod plugins. I remember an option to buy just Waveform for $150. Am I going mad or has this changed?
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- KVRian
- 501 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
If you click on Waveform Pro/buy do you see an upgrade option? I already own it but I see an upgrade option for 99 dollars for just the basic app.ndrw9138 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 12:21 am Is Waveform Pro offered without a bundle? I was going to wait till v13 and a sale to get a cheaper price, (I'm currently using Pro v11). It seems the cheapest price is $300. That includes Biotek & Retromod plugins. I remember an option to buy just Waveform for $150. Am I going mad or has this changed?
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- KVRAF
- 2456 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK
There's currently a memorial day sale on at the website with 40% of everything.ndrw9138 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 12:21 am Is Waveform Pro offered without a bundle? I was going to wait till v13 and a sale to get a cheaper price, (I'm currently using Pro v11). It seems the cheapest price is $300. That includes Biotek & Retromod plugins. I remember an option to buy just Waveform for $150. Am I going mad or has this changed?
I don't know what the memorial day is remembering, but I expect one can still get the 40% off. There's a code on the website.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9/10/11/12/13, 32(to W8)&64 all, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
- KVRist
- 46 posts since 30 Jul, 2018 from USA
The upgrade option is there, and is $60 with the %40 memorial day discount. I figured that for the $150 with the 40% discount I could skip an upgrade and get v13 for $90 when/if released in 2024, effectively saving $30 long term. Since there doesn't seem to be upgrade paths for 2 versions back, I guess it's upgrade now or not go Pro again since it will become unaffordable.
