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Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm Plugins that also do this:
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it

this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it
💯! Every saturation plugin should do this. Personally I think Tupe has implemented it best, but Kelvin and Michelangelo are amazing and have a form of it.

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if you have reaktor i can make you one, so crispy it turns everything to ash
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I still like Klanghelms SSDR, especially the Digital mode for this kind of sound (as opposed to the TUBE, Fuzz algos etc)

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If you have reaktor I made a distortion based on chebbyshev polynomials (long time ago ), can't get any cleaner then that and it sounds awesome
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/7733/
There are alos some free chebbyshave shapers (airwindows , hornet etc..)
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Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
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hey212 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:27 pm
Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm Plugins that also do this:
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it

this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it
💯! Every saturation plugin should do this. Personally I think Tupe has implemented it best, but Kelvin and Michelangelo are amazing and have a form of it.
Tupe is sounding very nice! Thanks guys, crazy GUI. Been demoing Michelangelo also and will continue to. Plug-ins have come a long way

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:52 pm If you have reaktor I made a distortion based on chebbyshev polynomials (long time ago ), can't get any cleaner then that and it sounds awesome
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/7733/
There are alos some free chebbyshave shapers (airwindows , hornet etc..)
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Interesting… I might give Reaktor a demo, am in the process of down sizing my modular so would be fun to explore ITB

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Ploki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
NO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:34 pm
Ploki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
NO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
How do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- clean
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Ploki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:49 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:34 pm
Ploki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
NO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
How do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- clean
maybe he did use chebby for the clean second-third harm ,I meant all the rest is most def. ana modelling-
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:02 pm How do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- clean
maybe he did use chebby for the clean second-third harm ,I meant all the rest is most def. ana modelling-
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Ye ye that's what i meant :) others are hardware inspired iirc.
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Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm
hey212 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:26 pm
jobinho wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:54 pm adds emphasis but doesn’t destroy it
Ghz Tupe is literally made for this. There is a section of the controls called "Emphasis" that gives you precise control over which parts of the frequency range you want to protect from over saturating, and to what degree. It's also just incredibly flexible and organic sounding saturation. Can't recommend it highly enough. https://manuals.goodhertz.com/3.7/tupe/ ... asisFilter
Plugins that also do this:
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it

this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it
Yes, pre- and de-emphasis filtering is so useful in saturation to prevent oversaturation. I wonder why there are still so many saturation plugins being released without this basic feature.

Luckily it's easy to set emphasis filtering up manually, by placing one EQ instance before the saturator and one after and then compensating with the second EQ for the emphasis settings you do on the first EQ.

Dan Worrall even made an entire video about this subject:

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Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm Tone Projects Michelangelo
That thing is ridculously good.
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BackInCheck wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:11 pm Yes, pre- and de-emphasis filtering is so useful in saturation to prevent oversaturation. I wonder why there are still so many saturation plugins being released without this basic feature.

Luckily it's easy to set emphasis filtering up manually, by placing one EQ instance before the saturator and one after and then compensating with the second EQ for the emphasis settings you do on the first EQ.

Dan Worrall even made an entire video about this subject:
Awesome video! Love Worrall but hadn't seen that one yet.

Btw, if anyone is into 500 series gear, we're working on a hardware saturator with emphasis eq controls over here: https://gearspace.com/board/new-product ... arter.html

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While we're talking hardware, I designed and built a Eurorack emphasis/saturator module, have been really happy with it.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-emphasis

Just remembered I never finished the blog writeup :dog:

In the box I mostly use Spectre for this sort of thing, but do also have some REAPER fx chains saved for the stuff Dan Worral showed. I guess those could now be fx containers to keep the mixer view a bit tidier.

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