Out Now: Bass XXL by Denise Audio

[morelia]

what is the copy protection method?

???

Just a license Key

[Fornicras]

Is this similar to Waves' RBass or MaxxBass, or it's something different?

[Caine123]

what is the copy protection method?

???

Just a license Key

thx so much, now im interested again, i try not to start new plugins with online DRM

[nanostream]

I’d also love to know how this compares to RBass or something like Culture Vulture. What piqued my interest is that you can feed midi notes into it, seems like an USP? Is it worth it?

[Denise.Audio]

what is the copy protection method?

???

Just a license Key

thx so much, now im interested again, i try not to start new plugins with online DRM

The plugin requires online activation but can be run offline after activation.

[morelia]

what is the copy protection method?

???

Just a license Key

thx so much, now im interested again, i try not to start new plugins with online DRM

The plugin requires online activation but can be run offline after activation.

Whoops, my bad. I didn't realise it was phoning home.

[soulata]

Is there an upgrade path from Bass XL?

I bought or got is as a freebie (can't remember) at Plugin Boutique.
I don't think I ever had an account at Denise Audio.

I guess I'll wait a bit, so BA can sort this out.

Baby Denise or Denise, Baby! would be a great name for a company

[sakarik]

Is there an upgrade path from Bass XL?

I bought or got is as a freebie (can't remember) at Plugin Boutique.
I don't think I ever had an account at Denise Audio.

I guess I'll wait a bit, so BA can sort this out.

Baby Denise or Denise, Baby! would be a great name for a company

yes there is, not free, but reasonable cheap. see your emails.. at least I found a code. have had a quick quick test but no opinion yet.

[nanostream]

I’ve bought it after a short test drive, the code BAFAM gave me another 10% off. It compares nicely to Dist TUBE-CULTURE and the like imho, and I like it better than RBass, which just sounds the same all the time. It’s an open question how often I’ll really use it in the future, but I feel it gives me another coloring option when designing bass.

[TBlake]

Looking forward to how you guys update DragonFire.
Oversampling please!

[Caine123]

guys im somehow confused.... so if i play a bass (sine wave) and add this plugin and play the notes C -> E-> G-> C for example. will this plugin add harmonics in the upper range automatically or doesnt it follow the notes?

[mixtur.se]

guys im somehow confused.... so if i play a bass (sine wave) and add this plugin and play the notes C -> E-> G-> C for example. will this plugin add harmonics in the upper range automatically or doesnt it follow the notes?

You can use midi input to follow the notes, but otherwise it’s hitting the configured (fixed) frequency range

[Caine123]

guys im somehow confused.... so if i play a bass (sine wave) and add this plugin and play the notes C -> E-> G-> C for example. will this plugin add harmonics in the upper range automatically or doesnt it follow the notes?

You can use midi input to follow the notes, but otherwise it’s hitting the configured (fixed) frequency range

i kinda am stupid and dont understand . doesnt bx_subsynth etc. for example create upper harmonics depending on the bass? so it stays in scale too. i had no worries/problems with other plugins so far, i thought XXL Bass works the same. but to have to set the frequency is kinda unlogic? cause a bass doesnt stay at the same frequency....

here is Note A3 played



here is F3 played



so the harmonics get followed by note?

EDIT oh i see, it seems it does it but you set the frequency range where harmonics shall get generated correct?

[MogwaiBoy]

Is this similar to Waves' RBass or MaxxBass, or it's something different?

In my recent testing it's a direct replacement for RBass with more control and improved sound, which I believe is due to the linear phase filters (vs minimum phase of Rbass altering the low-mids at the crossover) and controllable slopes, as well as oversampling which is fairly unnecessary but it's there.

RBass has a specific process:

1) Isolates low end with a low pass filter (high cut)
2) Waveshaper adds harmonics
3) Isolates those harmonics with a high pass filter (low cut)
4) Blends it back in parallel with the dry signal

As far as I can tell, Bass XXL is the only other plugin that does exactly this. I searched far and wide for a direct RBass alternative and this is it - nothing else came close.

No affiliation whatsoever - just my experience of searching for a viable alternative for RBass, so I don't have to install Waves Center bloat on my new PC for 1 plugin

[Dr.Gunjah]

@mogwaiboy: Never used RBass so I don't know if it behaves the same, but when I demoed Bass XXL I had a hard time to get decent amount of harmonics without making the signal much louder around the cutoff frequency. What kinda worked was to set the root intentionally an octave higher, so I wouldn't get too much low frequencies in the wet signal path.
However I haven't bought it because it didn't offer me enough control over the filters in both dry and wet signal path.I'm demoing bass mint at the moment which seems to work better for me, but unfortunately it doesn't have the midi note follow feature.

Edit: I wrote this because I still try to understand when I would use this plugin. The devs tried to explain it to me over at gearspace but apparently were annoyed by my questions at some point and basically told me "it's not for everyone".