Korg Triton Plug-In ARP does not sync
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- KVRist
- 337 posts since 5 Jan, 2022
PS if you were talking about the wave station, i think i figured that out last night. many of the patches on it are designed for playing a bass note in the left hand and a chord in the right. the arpeggios move around all over the place, sometimes the left hand triggers the sequence and sometimes it is the right hand, and sometimes neither.
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- KVRAF
- 2843 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
That's the way it worked on the hardware. It's not a bug it's how it's designedAudioReviewerQA wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:15 pmExamigan wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:46 pm So you want a sequence of the notes to play when you hold down keys and want them to start the right way each time, but also play keys out of sequence? I am sort of confused.
It seems if you are playing out of sequnce on purpose (if that makes sense) it will just not sound right.
I want the sequence not to "break" when I play legato with key sync on.
It's good that the sequences at least start correctly but then in order to maintain the sequence flow I have to switch chords only on the 2st downbeat of each bar.
in the second video i played same thing with key sync off and on.
here I'll list good and bad about each mode:
WITH KEY SYNC OFF:
Good: sequence keeps playing when switching chords and notes even when they're not on the beat 1 every time.
Bad: only possible to start sequence properly after switching patch, after that theres littel chance.
WITH KEY SYNC ON:
Good: Sequence always start at the beginning.
Bad: only possible to play bar-long chords / notes, if you'll play syncopated notes the sequences will restart even if you play legato.
From page 30 of the Triton Manual
Press the “Key Sync.” check box in the LCD screen
to make this setting.
Checked: When you take your hand completely off
of the keyboard and then play the first note-on, the
arpeggio pattern will start from the beginning. This
setting is suitable when you want the arpeggio to
start from the beginning of the measure as you are
playing in realtime.
Unchecked: The arpeggio will always be synchro-
nized to the MIDI clock tempo.
Sounding both the arpeggio notes and
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- KVRist
- 337 posts since 5 Jan, 2022
damn, still trying to help you fix this. finally had to watch the video lol.AudioReviewerQA wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:36 pm Hello everyone, here I made a video demonstrating this bug.
I had to overcome my severe social anxiety and actually do the talking in the video, i was stumbling a lot, mispronouncing words and doing long pauses, I tried editing the audio as best as I could but its still not great. oh and the A/C was on, sorry.
The Arpeggiator only syncs the first time, after you release the keys and restart playing you will have to make sure you restart right on the first beat of the invisible background sync tha Korg Triton Plug-in generates
so if you stop and start the song in the middle of phrases, the triton is not going to know where it is in the phrase unless you have MTC running, and I don't know how to do that.
If you always start from the beginning of a phrase, it should be fine.
one thing i did notice with triton and M1 is that sometimes there is a little space at the beginning of a groove for korg to get everything going and that can be annoying if you are trying to have something hit right on the beat. they even mention this in the old manuals that you had to give the unit some preroll time.
at any rate, i have had plenty of sync problems over the years and the best solution for me is that once i choose the loop i want to use, i convert it to audio and then trim it to fit the tempo, then just stop using the triton VST. bouncing everything to audio gives you the editing ability you need to bypass the problems. I hope this helps you.
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- KVRian
- 1078 posts since 24 Apr, 2008 from USA
Attention everyone!
The only workaround for this is the following:
Leave KeySync OFF in Arp settings.
Before hitting play in your DAW - turn OFF the ARP and turn it back ON. (this will reset the sync in Triton Plugin )
Then click play.
The issue with Triton plugins is that they don't receive Sync from DAW after starting the ARP, they only receive once at the beginning.
The only workaround for this is the following:
Leave KeySync OFF in Arp settings.
Before hitting play in your DAW - turn OFF the ARP and turn it back ON. (this will reset the sync in Triton Plugin )
Then click play.
The issue with Triton plugins is that they don't receive Sync from DAW after starting the ARP, they only receive once at the beginning.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 9 Oct, 2024
that's very inconvenient to always switch arp off and on before hitting "play".TS-12 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:21 pm Attention everyone!
The only workaround for this is the following:
Leave KeySync OFF in Arp settings.
Before hitting play in your DAW - turn OFF the ARP and turn it back ON. (this will reset the sync in Triton Plugin )
Then click play.
The issue with Triton plugins is that they don't receive Sync from DAW after starting the ARP, they only receive once at the beginning.
But I tried it and it works.
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- KVRist
- 337 posts since 5 Jan, 2022
thanks for solving this you guys! I just tried it with a triton loop. just one midi event at the start of four bars.
then before bouncing to audio, i turned arp off and on again and it was perfectly in time audio bounce. awesome.
then before bouncing to audio, i turned arp off and on again and it was perfectly in time audio bounce. awesome.
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- KVRAF
- 9881 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Off topic a bit here, but is there anything I need to do to deactivate the Korg licenses before wiping out my PC?
I will be reinstalling Windows either tonight or tomorrow, and I think I took care of all my other authorizations: IK, XLN Audio, Arturia, iLok and some others.
I will be reinstalling Windows either tonight or tomorrow, and I think I took care of all my other authorizations: IK, XLN Audio, Arturia, iLok and some others.
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- KVRAF
- 2807 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
There's a prog called "Korg Software Pass".
I'd open this first to see if the registration(s) can or should be deactivated.
Btw, on my PC the app starts and then crashes immediately (version 1.2.6), therefore I can't test it. And I'm not able to find an update on the KORG website. Actually, I don't find the app at all.
I'd open this first to see if the registration(s) can or should be deactivated.
Btw, on my PC the app starts and then crashes immediately (version 1.2.6), therefore I can't test it. And I'm not able to find an update on the KORG website. Actually, I don't find the app at all.
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- KVRAF
- 9881 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I will check it once more, but I didn’t notice anything in there earlier today.elassi wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:38 pm There's a prog called "Korg Software Pass".
I'd open this first to see if the registration(s) can or should be deactivated.
I did see something in my account on their website to "Revoke" for authorized plugins, but I think that may be if you're going to sell the license (?)
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 21 Apr, 2014
Old post, but still relevant.
I came across this when run into same sync issue. Wrote to Korg, mentioning this thread. Also mentioning that it was reported 2 years ago, but as of yet not fixed.
Reply I received today:
"Thank you for contacting us.
We have confirmed the situation and issued a fix request to the developer team.
Hopefully we can see the Sync issue fixed in a near future,
so we will reach you back with any developments about the resolution.
Thank you very much for your report."
I will update this if I hear back from them. Or not. Will give them a few weeks to sit on it.
Triton Extreme is one of my favorite vintage synth VST. Great sounding plugin, however this particular issue sucks the fun out of it. There should not be any workarounds. This (not cheap) emulator of a 20 year old workstation should work seamlessly.
I came across this when run into same sync issue. Wrote to Korg, mentioning this thread. Also mentioning that it was reported 2 years ago, but as of yet not fixed.
Reply I received today:
"Thank you for contacting us.
We have confirmed the situation and issued a fix request to the developer team.
Hopefully we can see the Sync issue fixed in a near future,
so we will reach you back with any developments about the resolution.
Thank you very much for your report."
I will update this if I hear back from them. Or not. Will give them a few weeks to sit on it.
Triton Extreme is one of my favorite vintage synth VST. Great sounding plugin, however this particular issue sucks the fun out of it. There should not be any workarounds. This (not cheap) emulator of a 20 year old workstation should work seamlessly.
- KVRian
- 853 posts since 12 May, 2004
Triton was bumped to v1.4.5 today. For some reason KORG Software Pass missed installing the Standalone but not the plug-ins... so it kept showing v1.4.3 as installed (apparently it verifies from the standalone). I had to sign into their site to get the official Mac Triton download file and reinstall from that. The KSP read correctly after that.
Also the KSP and/or their site gives no info whatsoever as to what got fixed or added in 1.4.5.
Also the KSP and/or their site gives no info whatsoever as to what got fixed or added in 1.4.5.
On a number of Macs
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 3 Aug, 2004
- KVRian
- 853 posts since 12 May, 2004
Thanks for the link. I would've never have thought to look beyond my user page.
On a number of Macs
- KVRAF
- 14157 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
There are a couple of synths that I have to leave a blank 4 beat bar in front of to get them to sync properly.
