Transpose Hannon piano exercise from C major to harmonic minor
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 3 Sep, 2021
If you want something a little more musical than Hanon you might consider some of the Czerny exercises. These tend to take the form of studies and you might find them more rewarding, whilst equally effective in training your fingers.
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- KVRAF
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- 5752 posts since 2 Oct, 2008
Thanks! I appreciate some solid recommendations for alteratives.
Again, mostly looking for interesting playing to train my voice!
Cheers
Again, mostly looking for interesting playing to train my voice!
Cheers
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Sorry, I did not catch this. I will look into it again, are you sure that they're harmonic minor scales passed exercise 30? I don't seem to recall any last time I went through the book maybe I stopped too soon. I just seem to recall they're all c majorStirner wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:40 pm You probably mean the first 20 "Five Finger Exercices"? They will sound boring even if you transpose them to other scales.
Later in the book, after exercise 30 or so, there are complete scales, with position changes and of course there are harmonic minor scales.
Very efficient exercises - for fingers, not for music - are from Dohnanyi and maybe Beringer, but they sound even worse than HanonMaybe just playing scales and arpeggios will be enough to stay in shape. Or just practice Bach preludes, like Heinrich Neuhaus recommended.
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The Bach Prelude advice seems really solid, those look like they would be just what I'm looking for, any others?Stirner wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:40 pm You probably mean the first 20 "Five Finger Exercices"? They will sound boring even if you transpose them to other scales.
Later in the book, after exercise 30 or so, there are complete scales, with position changes and of course there are harmonic minor scales.
Very efficient exercises - for fingers, not for music - are from Dohnanyi and maybe Beringer, but they sound even worse than HanonMaybe just playing scales and arpeggios will be enough to stay in shape. Or just practice Bach preludes, like Heinrich Neuhaus recommended.
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 4 Jun, 2019
The first 20 exercices are five-finger in one position exercises. Than there are exercises that get more complex, but they all stay on white keys, in C major.Touch The Universe wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:15 am
Sorry, I did not catch this. I will look into it again, are you sure that they're harmonic minor scales passed exercise 30? I don't seem to recall any last time I went through the book maybe I stopped too soon. I just seem to recall they're all c major
Than comes the exercise 39 which contains all the 12 scales in major and minor. For minor there are two variants - harmonic (identical up and down) and melodic minor (melodic going up, natural minor going down).
But I think most people when they say Hanon, they often mean just the first 20 pages from the 120 pages book, the five finger exercises. So your MIDI possibly contains only that beginning of Hanon.
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 4 Jun, 2019
I personally like baroque pieces. This one is quite easy and is a good work out:Touch The Universe wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:21 am The Bach Prelude advice seems really solid, those look like they would be just what I'm looking for, any others?
Generally I think you can just practice fast peaces, that are not too hard for you, so you stay relaxed and not too tensed:
Examples for early intermediate or late beginner:
Here is a whole playlist from RCM level 5 pieces, maybe you like some of them:
There are so many possibilities out there. For example a good workout for the left hand endurance and very very easy to play:
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- KVRAF
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Thanks so much for this treasure trove! I'll be sure to dive into them next practice session and I'll let you know what I thought of them, but from the outset, those look to be in very good taste, very good practicing looks like to be had here!
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- KVRAF
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Why is this version so much different. This one is beautiful but it seems like a partial improvisation perhaps.
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Take my pic out of these ones - all of bachs preludes or fugues!
https://youtu.be/EuipmhKuPC8?list=PLzSE ... Etzp7lWVyQ
https://youtu.be/EuipmhKuPC8?list=PLzSE ... Etzp7lWVyQ
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- KVRAF
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Bought this : Bach - The Well-Tempered Clavier | 48 Preludes and Fugues Songbook for Piano | Complete Books 1 and 2 | Schirmer Library Sheet Music Vol. 2057 | ... Library of Musical Classics, 2057)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0634099213?re ... asin_title
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0634099213?re ... asin_title
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 4 Jun, 2019
That means a lot of hard work 
Maybe this preludes could be good starting points - Dm, G or Am from the first and Fm from the second book. The famous C and Cm preludes are of course no-brainers
Maybe this preludes could be good starting points - Dm, G or Am from the first and Fm from the second book. The famous C and Cm preludes are of course no-brainers
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 11 May, 2025
I don't think you need to redo every sequence in the pattern. Just zoom way out in time and select all of the E's and move them to Eb as one and all of the A's and move them to Ab as one. Then you have a harmonic minor variant. You can transpose that by semitones using the transpose function for the track if you want different roots.