I know you hate it - They hate us too

[exmatproton]

While some of you are criticizing my work, just want you to know that 20 persons downloaded my VST for free in one or two hours.
While we are all saying that AI is bullshit, what is true, we all know that, we are alimenting debates and creating the opposite that we were seeking: an interest.
So thanks for your comments, whatever you say, that makes that my post is enough visible because of your critics.

that's because it's relatively new still. Wait for 1 or 2 years......

2 most probable outcomes; 1) LLM's have taken over most creative output. 2) LLM's are being put to rest.

[Innermost]

that's because it's relatively new still. Wait for 1 or 2 years......

2 most probable outcomes; 1) LLM's have taken over most creative output. 2) LLM's are being put to rest.

What's your bet?
For me, the futur of AI will be Human.
Interpret that as you wish.

[cvale]

First of all, I'm not pro-data center, but I think it's important to actually have a coherent world view. If you don't like data centers because they're a blight on the environment and vibe coding is going to cost lives, etc. well, most things you do in life were already a problem in that way anyway. If you live in the developed world, you enjoying luxuries at the cost of pain and death elsewhere in the world. This is just a fact. Data centers may heap a bit more on that pile, but they aren't fundamentally new in that regard. If you feel that strongly about it, you should stop using electricity altogether, stop playing video games, stop going to the movies, etc. But you don't, so you won't, and you'll find a way of rationalizing that choice.

Eventually AI will be run more locally, where it will consume even more energy overall (see the Jevons Paradox) but people will have a harder time pointing a single finger at data centers. Look at how many people are complaining about how bad data centers are for the environment right now compared to how many people regularly complain about the environmental impact of game consoles, as a random example. One is dominating public discourse (all the more so because it's new, of course) while the other is just seen as a fact of life and hardly anyone talks about it. That's the future of AI.

[Aloysius]

I have become a Beta Male Tester

[ghettosynth]

I have become a Beta Male Tester

Well, at least your having fun, that's all that matters.

[ghettosynth]

First of all, I'm not pro-data center, but I think it's important to actually have a coherent world view. If you don't like data centers because they're a blight on the environment and vibe coding is going to cost lives, etc. well, most things you do in life were already a problem in that way anyway. If you live in the developed world, you enjoying luxuries at the cost of pain and death elsewhere in the world. This is just a fact. Data centers may heap a bit more on that pile, but they aren't fundamentally new in that regard. If you feel that strongly about it, you should stop using electricity altogether, stop playing video games, stop going to the movies, etc. But you don't, so you won't, and you'll find a way of rationalizing that choice.

Eventually AI will be run more locally, where it will consume even more energy overall (see the Jevons Paradox) but people will have a harder time pointing a single finger at data centers. Look at how many people are complaining about how bad data centers are for the environment right now compared to how many people regularly complain about the environmental impact of game consoles, as a random example. One is dominating public discourse (all the more so because it's new, of course) while the other is just seen as a fact of life and hardly anyone talks about it. That's the future of AI.

Great response. I agree. We are some distance away from running it locally for most people, but it's far sooner than people think and is easily in reach today for anyone serious. My little coding machine pumps out a bit of warm air as you walk by the shelf, but, well, it's not that different from my XBOX, and, my air conditioner seems to be able to keep up with it all.

No judging my European friends.

[Seafire Mk2]

Could you not just say what the product is, without resorting to profanities?

I could yep.
And you, could you click on the link and read what is already written on the website in order that I don't waste my time repeating things already written over there?

Yeah, I'm not wasting my time on a link I know nothing about from a jumped up nobody with a bad attitude.

Ciao

[Bunny_boy]

I have become a Beta Male Tester

Well, at least your having fun, that's all that matters.

[Innermost]

I have become a Beta Male Tester

Welcome in the cult for AI then.

[Innermost]

Could you not just say what the product is, without resorting to profanities?

I could yep.
And you, could you click on the link and read what is already written on the website in order that I don't waste my time repeating things already written over there?

Yeah, I'm not wasting my time on a link I know nothing about from a jumped up nobody with a bad attitude.

Ciao

Fair, I understand. Apparently nobody wanna waste his time here. Totaly comprehensible.

Have a nice day.

Ciao.

[Innermost]

First of all, I'm not pro-data center, but I think it's important to actually have a coherent world view. If you don't like data centers because they're a blight on the environment and vibe coding is going to cost lives, etc. well, most things you do in life were already a problem in that way anyway. If you live in the developed world, you enjoying luxuries at the cost of pain and death elsewhere in the world. This is just a fact. Data centers may heap a bit more on that pile, but they aren't fundamentally new in that regard. If you feel that strongly about it, you should stop using electricity altogether, stop playing video games, stop going to the movies, etc. But you don't, so you won't, and you'll find a way of rationalizing that choice.

Eventually AI will be run more locally, where it will consume even more energy overall (see the Jevons Paradox) but people will have a harder time pointing a single finger at data centers. Look at how many people are complaining about how bad data centers are for the environment right now compared to how many people regularly complain about the environmental impact of game consoles, as a random example. One is dominating public discourse (all the more so because it's new, of course) while the other is just seen as a fact of life and hardly anyone talks about it. That's the future of AI.

Great response. I agree. We are some distance away from running it locally for most people, but it's far sooner than people think and is easily in reach today for anyone serious. My little coding machine pumps out a bit of warm air as you walk by the shelf, but, well, it's not that different from my XBOX, and, my air conditioner seems to be able to keep up with it all.

No judging my European friends.

What is sad is that the VST I am talking you about without really talking about runs LOCALY on your CPU. No connection needed.
And the beta version is FREE.
And that's not a joke. I hate laughing with people I don't know.
Seriously guys, CPU, LOCAL, FREE (beta, after no, it will be 29.99€ after 500 beta users)

[Funky40]

Could you not just say what the product is, without resorting to profanities?

I could yep.
And you, could you click on the link and read what is already written on the website in order that I don't waste my time repeating things already written over there?

your attitude won`t serve you well !


Even while i clicked the link, studyed the page, i still have no clue what *exactly* it does.
Is it writing plugins or is it writing music ? anyway, i`m not interested in an aswer.



and there are more folks trying to jump on the same train than you`d think.
We`ll have choices.

personally i think this whole thing, "attempting to cash in by delivering access to common AIs by apllying a inbetween layer" will completly explode.

and how important it is to have AI functionality as a plugin ? i doubt it that "this" is the point.
Assoon as one has to go forth and back might a more direct solution be quicker at the end.

[mimtemdo]

Lol @ being shamed for not wanting to make the world a worse place

[ghettosynth]

While some of you are criticizing my work, just want you to know that 20 persons downloaded my VST for free in one or two hours.
While we are all saying that AI is bullshit, what is true, we all know that, we are alimenting debates and creating the opposite that we were seeking: an interest.
So thanks for your comments, whatever you say, that makes that my post is enough visible because of your critics.

that's because it's relatively new still. Wait for 1 or 2 years......

2 most probable outcomes; 1) LLM's have taken over most creative output. 2) LLM's are being put to rest.

(2) is not going to happen and the sooner that this is accepted the more realistic your perspective can be. Even saying that reveals that you just don't understand how useful that they are and how in the contexts that they are extremely useful, that there is no going back to pre-LLM and this perspective is not dependent on anything more ever being developed or available. Moreover, it is not dependent on anything obscenely expensive being available.

I use them every single day for work at the cost of electricity and sunk cost into consumer level hardware. EVERY DAY. Just on the basis of document understanding alone, they are amazing. You have a code base, you don't understand it, openwiki will generate documentation for the entire codebase for you.

I think that most of you would benefit from reading this book. Cory Doctorow is not an AI apologist and yet his take is very much aligned with my own. He distinguishes between centaurs and reverse centaurs. The former are people like me, who are able to control how the AI is used in their work and are experiencing amazing productivity. Reverse centaurs are those people who are being told to use AI by capital.



Cory is a sci-fi writer, among other things, and I really like his take on the silliness of the sci-fi takes on AI.

[CapnLockheed]

Clearly the OP believes that "the only thing worse than being talked about....is not being talked about." Ooops!! I fed the troll