KVR Audio

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:20 am

Its basically a very quick way to get ideas down. If you have some synths going and you quickly want a beat, just load one up. If you like parts of it, you can keep the pattern, edit it, replace smples etc and its all there, without the need to spend ages programming it yourself, so you can concentrate on the stuff you were doing without losing your idea

Its also fun to mix diff styles/genres. You get some cool fusion going on when they are played toghether at tempos they wouldnt normally be

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:33 am

Yeah - it sounds pretty cool.

It's a bit like having a collection of midi files for each time of instrument (lead synth, drums, guitar etc.) that you drag into a part for the same purposes and then modify later.

The advantage is for Orion is that it isn't JUST a midi file, it also has all the settings of the generator taken care of as well.

It's probably not a revolution as such but it sounds like it could be handy from a workflow perspective especially for drums.

But one thing I can't quite see is that if you've got a synth part in there it's not necessarily going to be in the key your song file is. By the time you've modified the key of the pattern you probably could have written it from scratch yeah? Or am I missing something here?

Caleb

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:36 am

Caleb wrote:
But one thing I can't quite see is that if you've got a synth part in there it's not necessarily going to be in the key your song file is. By the time you've modified the key of the pattern you probably could have written it from scratch yeah? Or am I missing something here?

Caleb

All STYLES are in C. Open the Piano roll, and press the up/down arrow to transpose it to whatever key you like. Fast and simple

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:41 am

Kriminal wrote: All STYLES are in C. Open the Piano roll, and press the up/down arrow to transpose it to whatever key you like. Fast and simple

Sounds nice.

Caleb

ksn · Post by **ksn** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:17 am

and what about the "pro" version ?

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:02 pm

HI

What is the news in regaeds to beefing up the program to be more resilient and also some kind of rescue song doobrie?

Flipper.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:05 pm

original flipper wrote:HI

What is the news in regaeds to beefing up the program to be more resilient and also some kind of rescue song doobrie?

Flipper.

In English...?

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:08 pm

ksn wrote:and what about the "pro" version ?

Thats on its way out, time to upgrade

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:19 pm

Kriminal wrote:
Caleb wrote:
But one thing I can't quite see is that if you've got a synth part in there it's not necessarily going to be in the key your song file is. By the time you've modified the key of the pattern you probably could have written it from scratch yeah? Or am I missing something here?

Caleb
All STYLES are in C. Open the Piano roll, and press the up/down arrow to transpose it to whatever key you like. Fast and simple

Sounds a bit like the old Yamaha qs/qy type of thing. Does it allow you to change between majors/minors etc or is it just a straight note for note transposition thing?

manytone · Post by **manytone** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:34 pm

I have been too busy to try at the moment.... I see it also features a new Hard Limiter.

Anyone know if it fixes the problems we discussed in the "Orion too Loud Thread"?
as in....
Will it stop Orion from ripping a Flat Lined wav?

I'll have to try another day myself but.... anyone else?

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:34 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Sounds a bit like the old Yamaha qs/qy type of thing. Does it allow you to change between majors/minors etc or is it just a straight note for note transposition thing?

It just moves the whole pattern up/down, but you can select notes and move them (but i have no idea about that major/minor guff, its all jazz to me

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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:36 pm

BTW, obviously you can save your own STYLES, and share them with other Orion users, and they are not limited to native synths, they work with VSTi's too (but not sure if they will work with all, but worked with a few i tried)

Steven West · Post by **Steven West** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:42 pm

I just basterdised the House Piano style this morning to fit my new tune. Easy enough to expand, transpose, and shift problem notes that stick out after.

Just like bowling - it's a 5/7 split.

Bit worried about the Styles intefering with other patterns at first. That, and some of the 'cheesy' qualities of them in a 4 bar loop. But Krim and others assure me it's ALL correctable! And they are fairly inspirational and speed the process with out mucking with external synths and .MID files constantly.

ME LIKEY VERY MUCH!

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:49 pm

You should try my 'boogie woogie' ones

2windy · Post by **2windy** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:04 pm

Haven't got it open right now but I'm sure you could use the 'Force to Chord' function rather than transposing.

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