However, on the other hand, and in the name of being fair, Tracktion can do some things that Cubase can't do. It depends on your preference. But for me, and many others, Tracktion introduces an entirely new way of working, one that makes more music with less hastle.
Koolkeys
Tracktion VS Cubase SX ??
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Including inspire me to make musickoolkeys wrote: Tracktion can do some things that Cubase can't do.
Thats because of all the things they both do (ie everything you really need to make a good tune) but which are just a click or two away in Tracktion, and in Cubase require 2 or 3 seperate windows (and possibly a read of the manual).
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
You might consider energyXT (eXT) too.
It's ridiculously cheap and does an awful lot.
Also, you can use it inside your SX as a VST(i).
It's a modular host, and it has a sequencer, arpeggiator, preset generator for VST(i)'s and a sampler. And a hyperactive dev.
It's ridiculously cheap and does an awful lot.
Also, you can use it inside your SX as a VST(i).
It's a modular host, and it has a sequencer, arpeggiator, preset generator for VST(i)'s and a sampler. And a hyperactive dev.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
I moved from SX1 to Tracktion and have never looked back
Welcome to the fold
Welcome to the fold
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
I moved from SX1 to Tracktion well over a year ago. Never looked back. I had to install SX1 again yesterday to open a really old project. It was a nightmare for me, I could never go back to that stupid way of working.
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes!cptgone wrote:You might consider energyXT (eXT) too.
It's ridiculously cheap and does an awful lot.
Also, you can use it inside your SX as a VST(i).
It's a modular host, and it has a sequencer, arpeggiator, preset generator for VST(i)'s and a sampler. And a hyperactive dev.
You should check out eXT as well...
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 25 Nov, 2004
I too am an ex-Cubase user and a Tracktion convert. And I got the damn thing FREE! Cannot beat that (or beatslice that?) with a stick. I still use Cubase, but T is my main host now.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I just wish Jorgen was borrowing more from the Tracktion way of thinking than from the traditional way. All those menus....
Greg
Greg
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 1 Feb, 2005 from Salem, NH USA
Hi Folks-
Long time lurker, first time poster. I couldn't resist responding to this thread. I've used Cubase since version 3 (before VST!) and I've upgraded faithfully every time.
I downloaded a NFR copy of Tracktion because I was invited somehow (not sure if it was from the Mackie mailing list - since I own a Mackie Control or not). I was just testing it out for a friend who didn't need all the bells and whistles of Cubase, but wanted a VST host that could do a bit more than something like V-STack or Chainer.
I've recently discovered a big problem with Cubase SX 2's audio engine, at least as it applies to my Echo Mona audio card. In no way what I was hearing, while mixing in Cubase, was what I was getting upon mixdown (export). After months of testing, and thinking my ears had gone crazy, I finally ouput the audio from Cubase into Wavelab over the Mona's coax digital output to input.
After dropping a spectrum analyzer on it, I discovered that almost every audio track's EQ was dramatically dropped over 5-7 KHz. Now, I thought my mixes sounded muffled, while the exported audio files were more "open" and had more high end. My guess is that the real-time audio engine in Cubase SX does something to "beef" up the sound that, technically speaking, isn't there.
Good news? Tracktion's (1.6) audio engine doesn't have this problem (with my system anyway) My audio sounds open, all the highs are there, and a spectrum analyzer shows high-end on the exact same VST plug-ins and audio that weren't there with Cubase SX 2.2.
In short (kind of late for that) I'm spending the $150 upgrade for SX 3 toward Tracktion 2! Not to mention, you can do most things much faster in Tracktion since you don't have to dig through menu after menu, window after window!
Long time lurker, first time poster. I couldn't resist responding to this thread. I've used Cubase since version 3 (before VST!) and I've upgraded faithfully every time.
I downloaded a NFR copy of Tracktion because I was invited somehow (not sure if it was from the Mackie mailing list - since I own a Mackie Control or not). I was just testing it out for a friend who didn't need all the bells and whistles of Cubase, but wanted a VST host that could do a bit more than something like V-STack or Chainer.
I've recently discovered a big problem with Cubase SX 2's audio engine, at least as it applies to my Echo Mona audio card. In no way what I was hearing, while mixing in Cubase, was what I was getting upon mixdown (export). After months of testing, and thinking my ears had gone crazy, I finally ouput the audio from Cubase into Wavelab over the Mona's coax digital output to input.
After dropping a spectrum analyzer on it, I discovered that almost every audio track's EQ was dramatically dropped over 5-7 KHz. Now, I thought my mixes sounded muffled, while the exported audio files were more "open" and had more high end. My guess is that the real-time audio engine in Cubase SX does something to "beef" up the sound that, technically speaking, isn't there.
Good news? Tracktion's (1.6) audio engine doesn't have this problem (with my system anyway) My audio sounds open, all the highs are there, and a spectrum analyzer shows high-end on the exact same VST plug-ins and audio that weren't there with Cubase SX 2.2.
In short (kind of late for that) I'm spending the $150 upgrade for SX 3 toward Tracktion 2! Not to mention, you can do most things much faster in Tracktion since you don't have to dig through menu after menu, window after window!
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
Welcome to KVR! And to Tracktion! You'll find that you will get more done than before. It's amazing how many people come from Cubase to Tracktion. That says something about T.
Koolkeys
Koolkeys
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 263 posts since 31 Jan, 2005 from perth, australia
pakana wrote:The grid/pianoroll editing was the biggest problem for me as well after switching from Cubase... in fact it still is until v.2 comes out, and to overcome that problem I bought energy XT. I do all the MIDI stuff there and then import waves to Tracktion. (I could also use eXT inside Tracktion, but arranging with finished audio clips has improved my workflow.)Churchy wrote: so far the main problem i have is with timing ... there doesn't seem to be any shuffle setting like cubase.
I never got my head around Tracktion's quantize paradigm (
I hope T2's improved MIDI editing sees to these issues. Anyway, I'm really glad I ditched Cubase, having a clear, functional interface is more important to me & my music than billion of tiny buttons for a horde of obscene functions I never use.
.jontu
hmm this i find a little confusing; if you use energyXT, what is the point in exporting waves to tracktion?? wouldn't you want to keep it all in one sequencer?
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Yes. In those real-life musicmaking situations I face, Tracktion's clarity is clear advantage over Cubase.